Close the Israeli Embassy

George Galloway calls for closure of Israeli embassy in London

“I called for immediate action over Israel’s forging of British passports when this first became apparent,” says George Galloway. “The belated expulsion of a senior Mossad agent from London is welcome, but is nowhere near enough.

“The British government is warning UK citizens not to entrust their travel documents with Israeli authorities. That means that despite pleas from the Foreign Office it acknowledges that criminal copying of passports by Israel remains a threat.

“There needs to be a far wider investigation into Israel’s abuse of its diplomatic relations with Britain. Nothing less than a public inquiry will do. The British government, which refused to call for a ceasefire when Israel invaded Lebanon four years ago, cannot be trusted to tell us the full scope of this scandal.

“Just imagine the response if Iranian intelligence agents had forged British passports and used them to travel to Dubai and assassinate an Israeli official.

“There would be much more dramatic retaliation and at the very least the threat of military reprisal, and probably action itself.

“No one is suggesting that. But the Israeli embassy in London should be closed at least until we get to the bottom of this affair.

“Every British citizen travelling in the Middle East has been endangered by the actions of Mossad operating from the Israeli embassay in London. Protecting British citizens abroad demands nothing less than closing that centre of espionage at home.”

49 comments on “Close the Israeli Embassy

  1. SteveH on said:

    Cue a Harry’s place dweller still manintaining it had nothing to do with Mossad, because they could never be that inept and useless. But guess what, they were!

  2. No I’m in favour of diplomacy so the embassy should stay open, just as the Iranian embassy should stay open. Closing down embassies is what the Americans do and we generally disapprove of this. The decision to expell the Mossad chief in the UK and giving the Israelis a good ticking off was the right decision.

    Talk of closing embassies seems like electioneering to me…..

  3. No I’m in favour of diplomacy so the embassy should stay open, just as the Iranian embassy should stay open.
    – But the Iranian Embassy hasn’t committed any crime.

  4. “Just imagine the response if Iranian intelligence agents had forged British passports and used them to travel to Dubai and assassinate an Israeli official. ”
    Indeed, an immediate military strike on Iran I have no doubt.

  5. - But the Iranian Embassy hasn’t committed any crime.

    We had a hostage dispute with them and we did not close their embassy. There are international UN sanctions on them because of their nuclear programme but we have not closed their embassy, and there was the issue of the aftermath of the election which we disapproved of.

  6. #7, so he was the guy that organised the cloning of UK passports to facilitate state sanctioned murder, yes ?

    It would appear so. That’s what the serious organised crime agency have concluded, and Miliband seemed quite adamant.

  7. Do you know that he alone was responsible? I would have thought it prudent to investigate the entire embassy operation.

    As for international UN sanctions: Israel is in breach of plenty of UN resolutions and is in breech of its obligations under the NNPT.

  8. Do you know that he alone was responsible? I would have thought it prudent to investigate the entire embassy operation.

    Soca have already done that. Also, Mossad and the foreign diplomatic staff report to a different chain of command under their system – Mossad does not report to their foreign secretary, unlike MI6 – so it would not be fair to take it out on junior diplomats. The appropriate action has been taken.

    It may well be the case he was expelled for other reasons as well. Mossad spy on the UK probably more than any other intelligence agency due to our cultural and political ties giving them high levels of access. We don’t know.

    As for international UN sanctions: Israel is in breach of plenty of UN resolutions and is in breech of its obligations under the NNPT.

    That’s right, so we are being consistent. No embassy closures for either Iran or Israel.

  9. Iran has demonstrably copied British passports and used them to assassinate opponents overseas. If Iran did do that, the closure of their embassy would be the least we would expect.

    No. There’s no consistency here. Just special pleading for Israel. As for your being at ease with Israeli spying in Britain – which we know is part of an operation that includes assassination – thank you for your candour. I don’t imagine most British people will be so sanguine.

  10. mouse on said:

    But not really Ed. C’mon, let’s be like PROPERLY consistent.

    Sanctions because of Israel’s nuclear programme? And should I get started on the list of things we “disapprove” of…?

  11. Iran has demonstrably copied British passports and used them to assassinate opponents overseas. If Iran did do that, the closure of their embassy would be the least we would expect.

    I sincerely doubt it. They seized our service personnel and humiliated us by making them meet the president, and we did absolutely nothing about it. It was also kept hushed up for political reasons that their intelligence agencies were helping kill our service personnel in Iraq, and now we know they are doing the same in Afghanistan. Yet nothing has happened.

    No. There’s no consistency here. Just special pleading for Israel. As for your being at ease with Israeli spying in Britain – which we know is part of an operation that includes assassination – thank you for your candour. I don’t imagine most British people will be so sanguine.

    Why do you say I’m at ease with it? I’m against Israeli spying on Britain, obviously. That’s why I’m pleased that the head of Mossad in the UK has been sent packing There is no special pleading here. I think we should be much tougher on Israeli policy in general. I do not, however, believe in closing embassies.

    C’mon, we know that’s just electioneering.

  12. Why is responding to belated action by the British Foreign Secretary electioneering? Was Miliband electioneering when he made his announcement? It’s possible that he was, in which case how about a bit of your favourite hobgoblin of small minds?

  13. robert on said:

    I’m against closiong embassies. Unless you are actually at war with another state diplomatic contact is necessary. What I do favour is a campaign of sanctions against the Zionist regime.

  14. Why is responding to belated action by the British Foreign Secretary electioneering? Was Miliband electioneering when he made his announcement? It’s possible that he was, in which case how about a bit of your favourite hobgoblin of small minds?

    No, Miliband was dealing with important matters of state. Mr Galloway is appealing to a section of the community in the constituency he hopes to represent.

  15. #17

    In your view then ed D, some 30 years ago a yung man in Dundeee started on a lifetime’s commitment towards solidarity with the Palestinian cause on the off-chance that it might come in useful in a general election in 2010?

    Is it not more likely that george galloway is a conviction politician? He has hardly taken the careerist path now, has he?

    In contrast the Blairite politicians that you most admire have been caught pimping themselves out for £5000 per day,

  16. Ed D
    reckons Britian should discourage international terrorists using the UK as a base by doing absolutely nothing about it except maybe send somebody out of the country.

    Who else gets this special treatment when caught committing acts of international terrorism red-handed?

    ps
    Andy,
    for what it’s worth I would just like to say that when I criticise the Labour Party or the Labour Government, as I have just recently with regards to Osama Seed and the Scottish Islamic Foundation, I understand there is a difference between the right-wing Blairites and wnat the the British Government gets up to – and what you are trying to do to make it the Labour Party a better decent political party.

    I admire what you do and others on SU and am on your side in these matters.

  17. Is it not more likely that george galloway is a conviction politician? He has hardly taken the careerist path now, has he?

    Um, yes, but he has used some very dirty tactics that have been very dishonest. Lets not forget the Respect leaflet, posted up here, telling Muslims the campaign against the Islamist entryist organisation is actually a campaign against all Muslims. Nobody believes that including Galloway. And remember how he told Muslims in the east end – a hot bed of Islamism where many terror plots have come from, and where this IFE group opposed to democracy has highjacked the political process – that they are at war with the British state, to help himself get elected. I don’t think there has ever been such low tactics used by a westminster politician. (Of course, the BNP use these tactics all the time.) So yes he is a conviction politician in that he believes in the Palestinian cause and sincerely supported the other side during the Iraq war, but we know he is a dirty politician.

    In this particular instance it’s not a big deal – just a little statement seeking to go further than the government by actually closing the embassy – but it’s a serious call.

    In contrast the Blairite politicians that you most admire have been caught pimping themselves out for £5000 per day

    That Dispatches programme was an Islamophobic documentary that targeted these MPs simply because they are Muslims.

    Seriously though, Galloway’s financial dealings with foreign states have been worse in my view. He’s lucky there was no secret camera with his dealings with that jordian businessman who funded his charity through money from Saddam, or indeed with his meetings with Tariq Aziz in Baghdad. How did 150,000 from Saddam end up in his then wife’s back account? And so on.

  18. #6
    We had a hostage dispute with them and we did not close their embassy.
    – Eh?
    Sorry, I’ve just noticed this. What hostage dispute with Iran?

    The UK have never had a hostage dispute with Iran.

    There was the Iranian Embassy Siege in 1980 but it wasn’t the Iranian government who were responsible for it. They were the victims.

    There are international UN sanctions on them because of their nuclear programme but we have not closed their embassy…
    – What does this have to do with known international terrorists working in London embassy’s?
    Iran isn’t exploiting and undermining UK diplomatic passports and stealing UK citizens identities in order to carry out international terrorist crimes though.

    …and there was the issue of the aftermath of the election which we disapproved of.
    – What has that got to do with Iran’s Embassy in London?
    Closing down every embassy in London because the British government doesn’t approve of the way countries go about choosing their governments won’t leave the British government with much of an international diplomatic community to carry out its everyday buisness with.

  19. #20
    My aplogies Ed D
    I thought the subject of this blog thread was Israeli crimes committed against the UK and its citizens in order to commit acts of international terrorism-
    – it’s obvious to me now, it’s about the crimes of George Galloway MP.

    Sorry about the mis-understanding.

  20. Ed D reckons Britian should discourage international terrorists using the UK as a base by doing absolutely nothing about it except maybe send somebody out of the country. Who else gets this special treatment when caught committing acts of international terrorism red-handed?

    Well it wasn’t international terrorism targeted against civilians – this was a military commander as I understand it – so you’re stretching it a bit. We can’t be too judgmental about that because we’re involved in a conflict ourselves where tough measures are sometimes taken. The person who was involved in forging passports has been expelled – that is a good move. And he was no junior member – he is the director of Mossad operations in the UK.

    Now, I’ve already demonstrated that people killing our soldiers – terrorism by your definition – still have an embassy in this country, so to be consistent you need to call for that embassy to be closed down as well. Will you do this?

    But I’m not denying that Britain does have a much closer relationship with Israel than he does with Iran, which obviously came out of WW2 and is to do with our cultural and political connections. I’m not completely happy with the nature of that relationship at times, given how little movement there is from Israel. There are encouraging signs from Hillary and Obama that they will take a tougher line, but the idea it’s going to transform overnight and embassies will be closed down because of this one incident, or that we should want to cut off political relations, it’s cloud cuckoo land that we don’t want to do.

  21. Joe, the statement is by George Galloway so obviously he is an issue in the thread.

    Andy Newman is a member of the Respect party. Not Labour.

  22. Ed D, I think you’re right, Britain (the govt) does have a close relationship with Israel but what would lead you to think that this ‘came out of WW2’? And ‘cultural and political connections’? Which ones are these?

  23. #23
    Well it wasn’t international terrorism targeted against civilians – this was a military commander as I understand it – so you’re stretching it a bit.
    – Yes that’s right. We can go around murdering who we like, as long as we don’t like something about them.
    What about the law and justice and a fair trial?
    Obviously they aren’t high on the list of priorities of someone like you who supports international terrorism.

    We can’t be too judgmental about that because we’re involved in a conflict ourselves where tough measures are sometimes taken.
    – Exactly what the Nazi Pparty to brass said as well about international law and order.

    Now, I’ve already demonstrated that people killing our soldiers – terrorism by your definition – still have an embassy in this country, so to be consistent you need to call for that embassy to be closed down as well. Will you do this?
    – I must have missed this erudite demonstration. Where is it?
    Resistence and self-defence against war crimes isn’t terrorism – and I’ve no idea what you mean by my definition of terrorism.

    But I’m not denying that Britain does have a much closer relationship with Israel than he does with Iran, which obviously came out of WW2 and is to do with our cultural and political connections.
    – Yes, the British military in Mandate Israel were attacked and murdered by zionist terrorits pre-1948.

    ’m not completely happy with the nature of that relationship at times, given how little movement there is from Israel. There are encouraging signs from Hillary and Obama that they will take a tougher line, but the idea it’s going to transform overnight and embassies will be closed down because of this one incident, or that we should want to cut off political relations, it’s cloud cuckoo land that we don’t want to do.
    – Israel has an arsenal of nuclear wmd – maybe we should be doing to it what is being done to Iran which has no nuclear WMD.

    Andy Newman is a member of the Respect party. Not Labour.
    – Sorry I got my wires crossed a bit but I know he’s in a union and triees his best to influence Labour Party in the right direction

  24. #20
    Ed D, since when is the East End a “hotbed of Islamism where many terror plots have come from…” ?

  25. Ed D, I think you’re right, Britain (the govt) does have a close relationship with Israel but what would lead you to think that this ‘came out of WW2′?

    I’m surprised you weren’t aware of this. Because of the holocaust and Europe’s attitude to the Jews and that, support for Israel has had a strong place in British political culture since WW2.

    And ‘cultural and political connections’? Which ones are these?

    There are obviously lots of links at every level of the political establishment, the arts and business. Like there is with America too. There are not with Iran.

  26. Ed D, since when is the East End a “hotbed of Islamism where many terror plots have come from…” ?

    Since many serious terror plots have come out of this area, such as the 21/7 attempted bombings, and the liquid airline bomb plot that planned to take down dozens of airliners. There has been a lot of extremist activity there for some years now, so the situation is very sensitive. The last thing they need is for outsiders to come in and stir it up some more.

    And of course there is this far right organsiation opposed to democracy called the IFE that has infiltrated the local authority and all the local parties. It’s very serious.

  27. Resistence and self-defence against war crimes isn’t terrorism – and I’ve no idea what you mean by my definition of terrorism.

    You said that the assassination of this Hamas arms dealer was an act of international terrorism. Therefore you must also agree that the killing of British soldiers on a UN backed mission by a foreign power is also terrorism. Or are you now saying the assassination of the Hamas commander was military therefore an act of resistence by Israel? You’ve totally confused me now.

  28. #28

    Britain’s close ties with Israel were not forged in the aftermath of WWII. This is arrant nonsense. Zionist murder gangs were killing British troops throughout mandate Palestine right up until the British left in 1948.

  29. Any serious student of Middle Easter politics would concude that Israel has had a quite weak relationship with Britain.

    Not only was British occupation of Palestine contested by an intense Zionist terrorist campaiogn until 1948, but in 1953 Israeli secret agents bombed British targets in Egypt, and despite the brief cooperation in the tri-partite aggression against Egypt in 1956, Israel has consistently cooperated since then with Britain’s main strategic opponent in the MIddle East – the USA.

    More recent cooperation over Iraq should not blind us to the very long term rivalry between British and American interests in the Middle East, where there have been competing interests over oil. There is very litte evidence that Israel sees Britain as a close ally

  30. Any serious student of Middle Easter politics would concude that Israel has had a quite weak relationship with Britain.

    Not for the last 30 years or so. Obviously there was a great falling out over the way in which the British mandate ended, and I think we should have stayed longer and not caved into terror. We could have enforced a fairer deal. Ironically many people here would have been siding with the anti colonial Jewish terror operations if they were around at the time. (If you were wrong then, maybe you are wrong now in Afghanistan?)

    But as is often the way with colonial powers and their former areas of control, they become special friends after time has passed. You can’t really deny that there has been very close ties with the British and Israeli elite for some years now, and WW2 is a major cultural factor that has maintained that for last few generations of British politicians who think it important to stick up for the Jews, as it were.

    has consistently cooperated since then with Britain’s main strategic opponent in the MIddle East – the USA.

    There has been no great rivalry between UK and US for many decades in the middle east. We’re bascially on the same team, and you guys often complain about this fact.

    More recent cooperation over Iraq should not blind us to the very long term rivalry between British and American interests in the Middle East, where there have been competing interests over oil. There is very litte evidence that Israel sees Britain as a close ally

    Well the UK relationship is no where near as close as it is with the united states, and even with the US Israel always puts itself first. Whilst an American president needs AIPAC and critical funding from Jewish sources, that makes up around 50% of cash for presidential campaigns to get reelected, it’s hard to see that changing. Culturally the US public genuinely like the fronteer spirit as well. There’s not so much of that in Britain, but as far as these things go, the British establishment is more favourable to Israel than most other countries. It’s not hard to see why it’s easier to side with a democracy that in many ways looks like our own against Islamo fundies and dictatorships.

  31. bob hope on said:

    Close the Israeli Embassy? Oh George,stop being so silly!

    From the excellent CAAT…

    UK arms sales to Israel
    The UK has consistently sold arms to Israel. Over recent years it has licensed arms exports worth between £10 million and £30 million per year. During 2008, arms worth over £27.5 million were approved for export to Israel.

    Known export licences approved in 2008 include:

    components for combat aircraft
    components for electronic warfare equipment
    components for helmet mounted display equipment
    components for military aero-engines
    components for naval radars
    components for surface-to-air missiles
    equipment for the use of weapon sights
    general military aircraft components
    general naval vessel components
    military communications equipment
    technology for the use of weapon sights
    These figures do not include components that go into US-built equipment destined for Israel. In July 2002, the UK government approved the export of components for F-16 fighters being made by the US company Lockheed Martin and sold to Israel. Then Foreign Secretary Jack Straw justified the sales saying: “The Government has judged that the UK’s security and defence relationship with the US is fundamental to the UK’s national security … Defence collaboration with the US is also key to maintaining a strong defence industrial capacity.” He went on “Any interruption to the supply of these components would have serious implications for the UK’s defence relations with the United States.” In other words, the commercial relationship between BAE Systems and US companies such as Lockheed Martin was judged more important than the lives of Palestinians.

    Israel has used F-16 fighter aircraft and Apache combat helicopters to bomb Lebanese and Palestinian towns and villages. These have contained UK manufactured components including missile triggering systems for Apaches and Head-Up Displays for F-16s.

    The UK continues to sell arms to Israel despite the UN stating that Israel “violates humanitarian law” and even though the UK’s own “Consolidated EU and National Arms Export Licensing Criteria” are supposed to assess the impact on regional peace, security and stability and the human rights record of the recipient.

    More information on UK companies known to have supplied military equipment to Israel.

    Israel’s own arms industry

    A Caterpillar military bulldozer destroys Palestinian homes in the Occupied Territories. Picture taken by UNRWA, the UN agency for Palestinian refugees.
    Israel’s military sector is made up of over 200 public and private companies, dominated by three state-owned ones: Israel Aircraft Industries (Israel’s biggest employer outside government), Israel Military Industries and Rafael. Private company Elbit Systems is also significant.

    The UK spends millions of pounds each year on ‘battle-tested’ arms from Israeli companies, including 2,000 cluster shells that were used in the battle for Basra in 2003. Major Israeli arms companies Elbit Systems and Israel Aircraft Industries were exhibiting their wares at the UK’s Farnborough arms fair in July 2006, even while Lebanon was being bombed.

    Stop Arms Sales to and from Israel
    Because Israel is now such a major exporter as well as importer of arms, CAAT is calling for an embargo on the sale of all UK equipment to and purchases from Israel as well as the breaking off of all military contacts. This would send a strong message to the Israeli government that its actions are totally unacceptable.

    Construction company Caterpillar sells its D9 military bulldozer to Israel, which then uses it for Palestinian house demolition, and infrastructure and olive grove destruction. Palestinians are often killed in these operations. CAAT therefore also supports the consumer boycott of Caterpillar until it stops selling bulldozers to Israel.

    British jobs for british workers!

  32. #33

    So Ed D, you argument is falling apart rapidly.

    You said at #23 above:

    “But I’m not denying that Britain does have a much closer relationship with Israel than he does with Iran, which obviously came out of WW2 and is to do with our cultural and political connections”

    Now it seems you have retreated to arguing that this close relationship goes back only about 30 years, and the “cultural and political cnnection” amount to no more than sharing a democratc form of government.

    Now, compare with Britain’s connections with JOrdan. Where the male memebrs of the Royal familly are British educated, go to Sandhurst, the Royal Jordanian Army had traditionally been officered by Brits, and more recenty by Sandhust educated Arabs, and where Britain still has considerable influence.

  33. Matthew Stiles on said:

    Ed wrote that the 21/7 bombing plot orginated in East London. This was news to me as I remember the televised arrests took place near Paddington. Looking up the case, the bombers were resident in Birmingham, Stoke Newington, Finsbury Park, New Southgate and one was linked to a centre in North Kensington. I can’t see any link to East London.

  34. Yeah, but Matthew, people with dark skin who pray in mosques live in east London so they must have some sort of connection.

  35. John Meredith on said:

    “In contrast the Blairite politicians that you most admire have been caught pimping themselves out for £5000 per day,”

    ‘Pimping’, eh? I guess George’s ‘pimping’ of himself to Iran’s state TV service is another thing altogether? What is his daily fee there, by the way?

  36. Fleabite on said:

    “Any serious student of Middle Easter politics would concude that Israel has had a quite weak relationship with Britain” mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    The expulsion of an Israeli diplomat,(supposedly a Mossad agent) this week is mere windowdressing and petty tokenism. In reality the British government supports and will continue to support their “great friend” and impoerialist “ally”, the racist apartheid Israeli state.

    Moreso now than perhaps ever before as part of the imperialist alliance with the US.

    Britain said and did nothing to stop the Gaza war which it actually assisted and supported as it does Israel’s right to do whatever it likes, wherever it likes, however it likes to whom ever it likes.

    It’s merely a lover’s tiff. There is no objection on behalf of the British government for what Mossad does or has done.The CIA and British inteligence do the same and they all work together on these things.

    Galloway can say what he likes but there is no chance of any real fundamental change in respect to this murderous alliance.

    Hopefully,this incident serves to further damage Israel, evermore a murderous pariah state and gives greater strength to the international sanctions, boycott and disinvestment campaign,awakening ever more people to the reality of what Israel is really about: murder, state assassinations,systematic racism,imperialist war, massacres, murder, mayhem,brutal repression,state terrorism, torture,occupation and oppression….

    Britain arms Israel as is outlined by the CAAT post above,always makes excuses for it, provides diplomatic cover for it’s ongoing war and brutal occupation and the numerous massacres committed against the Palestinian people.

    Global Sanctions against the racist apartheid Israeli state now!

    Solidarity with the Palestinian people

  37. #30
    Resistence and self-defence against war crimes isn’t terrorism – and I’ve no idea what you mean by my definition of terrorism.

    You said that the assassination of this Hamas arms dealer was an act of international terrorism. Therefore you must also agree that the killing of British soldiers on a UN backed mission by a foreign power is also terrorism. Or are you now saying the assassination of the Hamas commander was military therefore an act of resistence by Israel? You’ve totally confused me now.
    – Now you’ve got me confused.

    What UN mission are you talking about?

    What has Israeli international terrorism, exploiting its diplomatic privileges in the UK in order to steal the ID’s of UK citizens and forge UK(EU) passports have to do with UN missions involving the UK military, and which foreign power is killing UK military personnel as they undertake this UN mission?

  38. Here is another example of Ed D’s assertion at #23 that
    …Britain does have a much closer relationship with Israel than he does with Iran, which obviously came out of WW2 and is to do with our cultural and political connections.

    Woof woof –
    David Miliband: Israeli cloning of British passports was ‘intolerable’
    Telegraph
    23 Mar 2010

    “…Members of the Israeli parliament likened the British government to “anti-Semitic dogs” and demanded the expulsion of Britain’s military attaché in Tel Aviv after erupting in fury over the expulsion of an Israeli diplomat in London.

    “I think the British are being hypocritical, and I do not wish to insult dogs here, since some dogs show true loyalty, [but] who gave the British the right to judge us on the war on terror?” said Arieh Eldad, a right-wing member of the Knesset.

    The canine theme was taken up by a second MP, Michael Ben-Ari, who said: “Dogs are usually loyal, the British may be dogs, but they are not loyal to us. They seem to be loyal to the anti-Semitic establishment.

    “We have learned that a dog must be called by its name. This is anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism.”

  39. Mark Victorystooge on said:

    British foreign policy has tended to tail the US, which does have a warm relationship with Israel. The UK attitude in itself has been a little cooler. Older diplomats and opinion-formers in the UK possibly remember unpleasantness like the King David Hotel bombing and similar acts in the last years of the Mandate, although younger ones may not. Also, unlike the USA, the UK does not have a large population of Christian Zionist wingnuts whose pro-Israel attitudes are fervent.

  40. Don’t forget Mark Victorystooge
    Winston Churchill, that great anti-Arab racist, was a very close friend of the zionists up until they assassinated his good mate Lord Moyne in Egypt in 1944.

    This is another example of what Ed D refers to as the “closer relationship” and the “cultural and political connections” the UK has with Israel, arising from WW2.

    A pattern of zionist executions abroad emerges.

  41. Mark Victorystooge on said:

    I’m not saying there isn’t British establishment Zionism, and has been for a long time, since at least the Balfour Declaration. Just that Brits have a little more experience than Americans do of what Zionist attack dogs can perpetrate when someone gets in their way.

  42. I know what you’re saying Mark Victorystooge mate.
    I’m being ironic.

    And what about that other well-known hamas international terrorist sympathiser Folke Bernadotte who was executed by zionist terrorists a few years after Winston’s best mate?

    Sure, Count Bernadotte helped rescue thousands of victims and POWs from the cluches of the nazis – but when it came to Arabs, he was too soft!

  43. clayton on said:

    To the poster who slandered George Galloway by saying he recieved $150,000 from Saddam though his wife’s bank account, you should be very careful what you type about people. This claim is total nonsense, of which the Daily telegraph and the Christian Science Monitor found out to their cost. Even the US senate committee who George ripped a new one discounted this smear and did not followed up on it.

    http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.php?page=content/art_off_unspinninglies.html

  44. Fleabite on said:

    Whatever is said here New Labour cabinet mugsters repeatedly state that Britain and Israel are great and close friends and as for Andy’s theory that

    “More recent cooperation over Iraq should not blind us to the very long term rivalry between British and American interests in the Middle East, where there have been competing interests over oil.”

    It’s called IMPERIALISM Andy, yes, there may be differences of opinions here and there but essentially they are all in it together as they repeatedly show in war after war after war and massacre after masacre after massacre.

  45. #47

    “It’s called IMPERIALISM Andy, yes, there may be differences of opinions here and there but essentially they are all in it together as they repeatedly show in war after war after war ”

    Yes well 1914 to 1918 also saw an IMPERIALIST war, where the rival imperial powers were prepared to go to war with each other.

    the relationship between the different great powers is not always one of fraternal cooportation