George Galloway visited the Exmouth Estate this week to meet the leaders of leaseholder and residents associations on the estate. This is an estate in the heart of Stepney which New Labour successfully encouraged the residents to transfer to Swan Housing in 2006.
He was given a tour by the residents and told of their multiple grievances. He issued the following statement following the visit.
“I am shocked and horrified by what I have seen and been told by residents’ leaders on the Exmouth Estate. There are blocks which have had scaffolding up for months, but where no refurbishment work has taken place. Most security doors are still not working and have not been replaced. There is evidence of widespread vandalism which has not been properly repaired including 250 broken windows.
“I also heard about elderly and ill residents having to put up with appalling damp in their flats and a general failure by Swan Housing, who are the landlords, to provide adequate support.
“Not only does there seem to have been mismanagement and negligence, the plans that Swan Housing now has for the estate promise to swallow up the existing green spaces which make this estate so potentially attractive to live in.
“Swan and the council will argue the proposed developments will provide much needed social housing. But this is a con. Those on the waiting list desperate to escape their overcrowding are receiving only the crumbs of new development whilst Tower Hamlets is being turned into an urban jungle. If these developments were 100% for social housing you could get twice as many homes for those in need covering half the space.
“And as for the fatuous argument that this would be against building for home ownership, no-one on an average Tower Hamlets income could possibly afford to buy a home here with still absurdly elevated house prices, even if they could find someone to give them a mortgage which they can’t.
“There are two Labour cabinet members representing this ward in the council and a third, Marc Francis, who claims to have been in regular contact with Swan Housing management. All they have managed to do is extract promises which Swan Housing then promptly breaks.
“This is a situation entirely of New Labour and the council’s making. They encouraged the tenants to vote for transfer. We warned this would be a disaster and almost everyone on the estate, after three years of mismanagement and neglect, now agrees.
“It’s about time these New Labour cabinet members got hold of Gordon Brown and told him that we need emergency legislation to give councils the power to take these estates back into public ownership and control. At least then, the landlords would be more accountable. Swan Housing are clearly unaccountable and out of control. Give the residents a vote on whether they want to return to the council – I bet 99% will vote for it. “
ANiN on said:
Andy thank you for this report, it is so good to see Labour has returned to its Social Democratic instincts and rejects Neo Liberal impulses of privatisation and allowing public assetts to be squeezed for profit with no regard as to what people actually need, like decent jobs and housing
Residents Action Group on said:
Swan Housing – a “responsible” social landlord? – showed their true colours here on their internal vacancies page
http://www.swan.org.uk/working_for_swan/current_vacancies/view.php?id=64
“You will advise on best practice, deliver service excellence and implement measures to maximise income.”
And a starting salary of £50K a year?!!
Strategist on said:
OT, but this is a shocker:
What all that waterboarding of Al Qaeda detainees was actually all about…
…generating evidence of a link between 9/11 and Saddam!
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/04/waterboarding_a.html#comments
“If it is not evil to use torture to try to create a pretext for launching aggressive war, then what is evil?”
OAP on said:
Galloway tells us the way it is. Swan Housing is just a greedy money grabbing organisation with no interest in being socially responsible. Return all social housing back to the public. We say not to RSLs!
CKP on said:
I live on the Exmouth Estate and Swan Housing are completely incompetent: unable to even allocate garages and parking spaces. They have spent extravagant amounts of money on some paint and Swan logos for the estate and are trying to charge home-owning residents £10,000 each for this and other minimal cosmetic “improvements” to the estate. They are just thieves, completely unaccountable. I have written to the new MP Rushanara Ali, you should do the same: her address is 349 Cambridge Heath Road, London, E2 9RA.
StepneyLad on said:
There is a lot of misinformation on the internet, in this post included.
If you’d like to SEE the Exmouth Estate and what Swan have done
check out this youtube channel. Dozens of videos showing what the
majority of residents think about Swan and The Exmouth Estate
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=swan+housing&aq=f
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing are providing a dreadful service but most residents think that verbal complaints are enough to get Swan to toe the line. I’m afraid this is a misconception and that the only effective way to hold Swan Housing to account is to make a formal complaint and to see it through the various stages leading all the way up to the Ombudsman. Don’t allow them to ride roughshod over you.
This link is useful info on how to make a formal complaint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8gc_ikulDU
Rave Broker on said:
I want Swan Housing to take positive steps to stop the culprit from urinating in the Musbury Street lift. These steps for Swan Housing would include sending leaflets through the letterbox of all residents with warnings of eviction for the culprit. Swan Housing should also offer a small reward to residents who might know the culprit and for anonymous tip offs. This urinating in Swan Housing’s lifts has been going on for many years now.
Check the following link for footage for the 7 Oct 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFsgtFogWHg
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Comment 6 by StepneyLad is a fake. This person is flooding you tube with spoof videos praising Swan Housing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYT9Og9be8
Either StepneyLad works for Swan Housing or he is insane, as the majority of residents are very unhappy with Swan Housing stewardship of the Exmouth estate. Swan Housing is simply rubbish.
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate
Residents voted for Swan Housing in 2006 on the strength of promises to renovate their kitchens and toilets which is how Swan Housing came to own the freehold of the Exmouth Estate in 2006. I have always had LBTH as my landlord until Swan Housing got voted in and have never had any complaints against the LBTH. Never have I seen an Estate go to rack and ruin as the Exmouth Estate when Swan Housing took over. 250 smashed windows and graffiti all over the Exmouth Estate and overhead wires hanging low over your headwithin a few months of taking over. Entrances were allowed to remain unlocked for months and some of them for 3 years, allowing vandals to enter and destroy the Estate. By that time the Exmouth Estate was really in need of renovation and Swan Housing was delighted to be able to realize its plans. The Estate was fine before Swan came into the picture -LBTH repaired broken windows weekly and the Estate looked well managed. Now the leaseholders are faced with Section 20 bills of near enough £10,000.
Dan on said:
LadFromExmouth estate posts PHOTOGRAPHS of The Exmouth Estate.
We would like ‘Truth on Exmouth Estate’ to explain how these are “spoofs”?
Also please provide evidence that the “majority of residents are unhappy”.
Finally, and just so everyone reading this has some idea of the validity of your complaints; you have posted movies of DOORSTOPS, claiming in breathless tones they are A DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB.
Please look at Council estaes for some idea of what true deprivation is like. Exmouth may not be heaven, you your dozen or so videos of the same, single issue push you solid into the category of INTERNET CRANK.
Anyone reading this please look at Lad’s photos or visit Exmouth to judge for yourself.
Dan on said:
Oh an Rave please don’t turn this into an attack on me.
You have claimed PHOTOGRAPHS posted are “spoofs”. On another forum you have claimed they are “fraudulent”.
Please provide evidence to support your claim.
You movies of doorstops, plugged drains and crushed worms are not genuine problems on The Exmouth Estae.
Yes there are problems. Doorstops and crushed worms are not, in spite of your claims, acknoweldged as problems by most residents.
Please focus on the problems, not me.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
For £19mill spent the Exmouth estate should look good now, but not value for money.Its more like 5mil spent and the rest fleeced in management charges etc.. Dan or whatever your mutiple aliases are, get a daytime job, and stop posting your silly videos. Oh I am sorry you already have a daytime job, you work for Swan housing and in your their pocket or up their rear end, and I am glad your happy with them. Turn your house into a shrine for swan housing. Not matter what you say, Swan Housing is still an awful RSL. George Galloway is right about RSLs. Your are fake Dan (Stepney Lad).
Dan on said:
‘TruthonExmouthEstate’ please focus on problems, not me. Lets review your statements to date:
You’ve claimed a doorstop is a DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB. We disagree and suspect most resident disagree with your conclusion as well (you made a ten minute video talking about a DOORSTOP? Do you seriously think a doorstop is a “problem”?)
In this thread you’ve claimed a majority of residents are unhappy with Swan. And you’ve claimed the PHOTOGRAPHS posted are “spoofs”.
We’ve asked you several times for proof that most residents are unhappy or that the photographs are “spoofs” but you either won’t or can’t provide evidence supporting your statements. So here we go.
The photographs are not “spoofs”, as anyone reading this can verify by visiting our estate. They are simply PHOTOGRAPHS and not doctored at all. And we suspect you have no evidence supporting your claim that the majority of residents are “unhappy”; once again, if you do please produce it.
We have asked several times that you provide evidence. You have responded with personal insults so why should we believe anything you say when you refuse back up your statements? We’re not here to be lectured by you. Please respond to the questions.
You are part of a small group of residents who are simply agitating, attempting to create problems where none really exist (e.g., a doorstop) .
You sir are divisive. Everyone on Exmouth knows who you people are and nobody is impressed by your greed and self interest.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
George Galloway was right to highlight Swan Housing’s mismanagement of the Exmouth Estate.
That this House notes that the Government and councils have encouraged tenants and leaseholders to vote to transfer out of council ownership to private housing associations, known as Registered Social Landlords (RSLs); further notes that many residents, despite lavish bribes to transfer have voted against transfer to RSLs; further notes that this policy of stock transfer has now been abandoned, for example, in Tower Hamlets in the face of public opposition; that residents who are now living under many of the RSLs are extremely unhappy over charges and services; further notes that the list of RSLs with which there is the greatest dissatisfaction includes Swan Housing Association, Old Ford Housing Association, One Housing Group and East End Homes; and believes that it is essential that legislation is brought forward urgently to make these private housing associations more accountable directly to the residents and to the councils within which they fall.
http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=38842&SESSION=899
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estates doorstop in Musbury Street :It seems that Dan is trivialising Swan Housing’s doorstop as something petty. The fact that not all of Swan Housing’s doorstops were targeted but just this particular one speaks volumes. It is slap bang in the middle of a very narrow pavement which is unlit -you wouldn’t want your grandmother or grandfater to be walking accross it late in the evening or even in the daytime for that matter with the risk of them stumbling over it and breaking their bones or hip . Stop using semantics to win over an argument. Anybody can see that the doorstop poses a danger for the elderly what with their failing memory and eyesight.
Let the readers judge for themselves by watching the following footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqqfI_9QFc
Dan on said:
Rave Broker we are doing no such thing – please pay attention.
TruthonExmouthEstate has claimed a doorstop is a DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB. We disagree, and suggest you and Truth both look to the estate opposite Exmouth on Jamaica Street (owned by a different landlord), where they haven’t had heat or hot water for weeks now. That is true deprivation, a bona fide DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB. TruthonExmouthEstate should be ashamed for making such a baseless claim, but greed has blinded him.
The doorstop is not dangerous as positioned. But why is TruthonExmouthEstate wasting his time here? Call LBTH’s ‘elf and safety – they will (over)react if true and job done. Everyone knows ‘elf and safety will (over)react if there is a real problem. What TruthonExmouthEstate won’t tell you is he has already contacted them about this EXTREME DANGER and they declined to do anything. Why? Well, aside from the fact that TruthonExmouthEstate is the only one claiming a DOORSTOP is dangerous, LBTH ‘elf and safety reportedly laughed in his face when he attempted to explain how DANGEROURS a DOORSTOP is to all residents. They left unconvinced. So he turned to youtube and this site.
But more relevant is TruthonExmouthEstate’s poor credibility, the outright lies repeatedly posted here as well as other sites. Lets look closer:
He has claimed posted photographs are “spoofs”. They are PHOTOGRAPHS, not doctored. We’ve asked TruthonExmouthEstate for evidence the photographs are “spoofs” but he declines to produce his evidence and instead insults us for asking a reasonable question.
TruthonExmouthEstate has also claimed “the majority of residents are unhappy”, but, once again, when asked for evidence can’t produce any. As before, he instead responds with insults. It would seem you can’t disagree with TruthonExmouthEstate, not and expect civility that is. Once again, greed makes people do strange things.
But the facts are this: no such evidence exists. TruthonExmouthEstate is making it all up, he and a small number of residents are telling egregious lies about The Exmouth Estate, trying to create the illusion of widespread “problems” where there are none.
You might wonder why TruthonExmouthEstate is creating noise, agitating about nothing substantive? About doorstops and crushed worms and plugged drains? Stridently insisting these are SERIOUS problems? Here is why: he and a group of residents are trying to secure a bailout for themselves.
Like the Rich and Greedy Bankers, TruthonExmouthEstate and a small number of like minded (greedy) residents are agitating in the hopes of securing a bailout. Why make so much noise about nothing? When asked for evidence why not produce it? Why lie repeatedly? Why respond to reasonable questions with insults? One word: greed.
As poor residents of the Exmouth Estate, OAPs and those on benefits would pay for that bailout we oppose it. We opposed the bankers bailout as well. TruthonExmouthEstate knows we won’t support his bailout; that’s why he refuses to engage civilly. Greed makes greedy people act uncivily.
We have made our opinions known to elected officials and others who would be aware of, approve or otherwise finance such a bailout. Every video he posts is distributed to this group, with the stern message that we oppose the bailout. Let me repeat: WE OPPOSE A BAILOUT.
Let anyone reading this visit Exmouth and judge for themselves. You’ll see a well maintained estate. Much better than it was two years ago.
What you won’t see is the greed a few who are trying to engineer a bailout for themselves. The greed that is showing itself on this message board as well as youtube, any other site. Greed is a terrible thing. Makes people like TruthonExmouthEstate tell lies. The internet lets these lies be distributed far and wide.
We’ve already made our feelings known to our landlord, councillors and others of influence (MPs, and more) : NO BAILOUT.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Cllr Oliur Rahman warns housing assocations like Swan Housing if they fail to “listen or deal with the problems residents face that I, for one, will not welcome them in Tower Hamlets.”
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/features/swan_housing_didn_t_show_up_to_hear_tenants_concerns_1_668702
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
East London Advertiser receives a big thank you (from an Exmouth Estate resident) for highlighting concerns about Swan Housing Management.
I don’t agree with your theory that a small number of greedy residents are complaining.
Check the newspaper link below. How much more proof do you need Dan?
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/features/thanks_advertiser_for_publicising_our_housing_concerns_1_668215
Dan on said:
Oh good, another pseudonym to debate.
Well, lets see – the first story is dated Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, and the second story is dated Monday, 18 May, 2009.
Don’t you have any CURRENT news that reflects how bad the estate is? Or did the East London Advertiser decline to publicse your claims that doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains are a DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB? We bet they passed on publishing this IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH, that’s why you lot are now resorting to posting your lies on the internet.
When there were bona fide problems, Councillors, MPs, newspapers, the BBC were all on our estate. There was a giant website with thousands of pictures and videos of the problems (Residents Action Group Exmouth, or RAGE).
Where are they all now?
Why haven’t they spoken up recently? Seems like they’ve all been quiet for months, years even. In fact the RAGE site is totally gone; those people seem rather happy with conditions.
Its as simple as this: they don’t agree with you that doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains are a DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB. They’ve declined to get involved with your FICTIONAL problems. They’ve sensed your greed.
Posting ancient news articles only proves once upon a time many people were upset; there were valid complaints. Now the only complainers on our estate are a small, greedy minority who are hoping for a bailout.
Why else post any OLD newstory you can find? Why not NEW newstories?
You’re simply dredging up any bad news you can find in the hopes of a bailout, its that simple. Those stories do not reflect current conditions on the estate; if they did Councillors would be all over the problems like they were in the past. The media would be all over the problems, like they were in the past. The RAGE site would be updated daily, like it was in the past.
All these different people are strangely silent, given that residents of the Exmouth Estate are being threatened by DOORSTOPS, PLUGGED DRAINS and CRUSHED WORMS!!!! The horrors.
No, its a small (and well known) greedy minority who are seeking a bailout. A bailout financed, once again like the bankers, from public funds.
And you don’t have to agree; its our opinion and we’re entitled to it. Just like we don’t have to agree with you. But we’ve got evidence, evidence you willingly provide us.
Please keep posting the old newspaper stories and videos of the “dangerous” conditions. Each time you do it strengthens our claim that a small, greedy minority are attempting to create problems where there are none, in the hopes of securing a bailout.
Our landlord doesn’t agree doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains comprise dangerous conditions.
The media and our elected officials don’t agree doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains comprise dangerous conditions.
The RAGE people, very militant in their time, apparently don’t agree doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains comprise dangerous conditions.
We long term residents don’t agree doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains comprise dangerous conditions.
We all oppose a bailout since your bailout would be funded by OAPs, those on benefits and the most vulnerable among us.
Everytime you post a video or post one of your lies in a thread on the internet we make sure our landlord, elected officials and those in influence see further evidence of your greed. So please keep posting.
Oh yeh, the message that accompanies the evidence you provide us with is simple: no bailout for the greedy minority.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Dan. Yawn, Yawn! Stop your whining. Dont you know the guys behind RAGE got paid off, just like you. We dont live Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia. Its my Freedom Of Speech and I dont have to justify nothing to you bullyboy. you entitled to yours and everyone is entitled theirs. Stop follwing me around your like rash that does go away. What Bailout? I think you forgot take your tablets again. Just because your in love with Swan, does not mean others can not criticise them. So stop your bullying and your rants. Swan housing is a rubbish social landlord.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
In a deputation to Tower Hamlets councillors Mr Coker called the board’s claim to power a “fallacy”.
Mr Cooker who described himself as an American farm boy said that back home they had an expression: “You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.”
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/people_on_tower_hamlets_estate_protest_over_residents_association_1_669798
We need this boy back, he was a legend and a big gun who was not afraid to stand up for the residents, unlike the Lad from exmouth aka Dan who is just full of hot air. Its shame he went back states to become a farmer again.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Does anyone on this thread understand or make any sense of what Dan is talking about? He keeps ranting on about doorstops, crushed worms, plugged drains and greed? This thread is about Swan housing, Exmouth Estate in London.
Below is another newspaper link regarding Swan Housing Exmouth Estate.
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/people_on_tower_hamlets_estate_protest_over_residents_association_1_669798
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Talking about greed. Have you seen the salary Swan Housing is paying its staff.
See link below about Swan Housing salary:
http://appointments.thesundaytimes.co.uk/job/399946/director-of-sales
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Housing Chief, Cll Marc Francis has lost his cabinet position. Cll Francis has defended and criticised Swan Housing in the past.
George Galloway’s Respect party got the vote through for an elected Mayor. The Respect Party backed Lutfur Rahman. Rahman won the election with a big majority.
Mayor Rahman told a packed meeting he does not support Swan Housing building on Exmouth green spaces and the children’s play area along the Commercial Road.
Dan on said:
“Does anyone on this thread understand or make any sense of what Dan is talking about? He keeps ranting on about doorstops, crushed worms, plugged drains and greed? This thread is about Swan housing, Exmouth Estate in London.”
Oh I didn’t bring that up, just look at the youtube links posted here. Some greedy residents are posting videos of these “problems”. Videos created by greedy residents who are hoping for a bailout.
Even this thread has some people defending the videos, claiming that doorstops, crushed worms, plugged drains are a SERIOUS DANGERS TO LIFE AND LIMB.
Why post videos of doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains? Why post years old news stories, OLD news stories?
Greed. Hoping for a bailout, like the greedy bankers.
And if there are problems why aren’t there any NEW newstories? Why aren’t these people still speaking up?
Lets see some NEW newspaper stories to document these “problems” you claim exist. These DANGEROUS conditions.
You are posting newstories that are well over a year old, if not older. OLD NEWS. Old problems that DO NOT EXIST ANY LONGER. Implying the problems still exist.
“Dont you know the guys behind RAGE got paid off”
No and you don’t either. But you libel everyone that disagrees with you. That is the standard practice of the greedy who are hoping for a bailout. And you libel behind a pseudonym.
If you believe those guys – and others – got “paid off”, post this under your real, legal name. Show some integrity.
But you won’t.
As I said before, greed makes people do strange things.
We oppose a bailout as it would hurt the most vulnerable.
NO BAILOUT.
But please keep posting the ancient newspaper stories. Please keep posting more videos of doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains. Keep implying, as you are, that the old problems haven’t been fixed. Keep quoting people out of context.
Your greed is digging yourself a big hole here.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Yawn, Yawn,Dan you so boring, same old rhetoric, you are just a bully.
“If you believe those guys – and others – got “paid off”, post this under your real, legal name. Show some integrity.”
Like the rage guys posted anything in their real names, and just like you not posting anything under your real name. Where is your integrity.If your claims are true and we are the lairs why don’t you post your real name? you have nothing to be afraid of have you?
The thing is you are trying to pass yourself off as someone else, and its you who is afraid of libel, or may be an angry lynch mob.
Why don’t you go around with a placard telling the unhappy people on the exmouth estate that they are liars and there are no problems- then you get the reaction, but you wont do that its too easy for you to hide on the internet.
Dan, like all bullies you are a coward so keep hiding. I don’t have to prove anything to you. You are just pathetic Swan sympathiser who is too blind to see the sunlight.
You keep going about a bailout.
There is not going to be bailout, so claims about greed is rubbish. How is it greedy to expect fair services you pay for. Unfortunately we are stuck with this Greedy Housing Association- Swan housing and they are rubbish like many of the RSLs in town.
So your love affair with Swan is going to continue. Get a life Dan.
Dan on said:
Truth on Exmouth Estate you keep posting the same old news stories. Some as many as two years old. Why aren’t there any CURRENT news stories? Why aren’t the councillors in the newspaper about the dangerous doorstop you’ve filmed? Why doesn’t the newspapers agree with you about the “dangers”? Why aren’t the media doing stories on this?
Please stay on topic, and explain, as asked many times, why you believe doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains are “dangers to life and limb”.
You clearly do, as you’re spamming constantly about these “dangers”.
And nobody is bullying or calling others names but you.
You said the videos posted were “spoofs”. In this thread.
You said the “majority of residents were unhappy”. In this thread.
We asked you to prove each statement and you resorted to name calling.
Who is the bully?
We’re trying to egg in reasonable discourse. You are bullying and name calling.
“There is not going to be bailout”.
Spot on. Especially after we made sure everyone who would approve of a bailout is aware of your false claims.
Doorstops are not “dangers to life and limb”.
Its pretty obvious to anyone on the estate or to the councillors who recently had a walk about on the estate that your claims are ridiculous.
And yes, they DID inspect your doorstop.
Curious there is no newspaper story. Curious we’re reading no statements about this danger.
Nobody cares but a small, greedy minority who are agitating for a bailout.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Boring Boring Bullyboy Dan, Another Rant. You are just a troll with nothing better to do.
Get your facts right I never posted anything about:” doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains are “dangers to life and limb”, that’s someone’s elses doing. All I have said is your a fake. The only greedy one is you and Swan Housing. Nuf said. The truth hurts as the former exmouth estate resident the US farmboy quoted “You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.” http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/people_on_tower_hamlets_estate_protest_over_residents_association_1_669798
An Swan Housing is a pig of landlord, just out to rip-off the poor.
Dan on said:
Why are you repeatedly posting old news Truth on Exmouth Estate?
Nipped out to newsagent to get the current edition of The East London Advertiser. You can read it online here
http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&refresh=9t0J13SjfT06&PBID=9818a089-581b-4a32-aca3-057ae08b1168&skip
Absolutely NO coverage on the “dangerous conditions” residents of The Exmouth Estate face to due to doorstops, crushed worms or plugged drains.
Absolutely NO statements by councillors either, after their last estate inspection, about the “ever present danger to life and limb” on Exmouth.
The Councillors aren’t silent either, they are commenting and talking about LOTS of issues in the newspaper. LOTS of REAL problems, not imaginary, made up problems (doorstops). They, like lots of other people, don’t agree with you on this particular issue.
But please, don’t let that stop you from repeating ancient history, continuing to imply as you are, that problems from two years ago haven’t been fixed.
Why are you drudging up old news? Why are you repeatedly implying the old problems still exist? Those people quoted in these articles aren’t protesting anymore, why is that?
Dan on said:
This must really hurt, Truth on Exmouth Estate.
Nobody agrees with you that doorstops are problems.
No newspaper coverage on this serious issue.
No Councillors commenting on this serious issue.
No MPs visiting the estate, issuing motions in parliament about this serious issue.
And here you are, posting old newspaper stories, stridently insisting that somehow these problems still exist.
The problems don’t exist and the newspaper agrees.
The problems don’t exist and the Councillors agree.
The problems don’t exist and MPs agree.
The problems don’t exist any longer. In fact you can’t find one REAL problem, thats why you’re posting old newspaper stories. That’s why you’re quoting people who long ago have agreed the problems are solved.
You’re making things up, that’s why you’re posting old news instead of current, new news stories.
There are no newspaper stories since the problems were solved.
Ray on said:
This Dan must be an ostrich or a plant. Leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate and Dan keeps praising Swan. Denial is a powerful and lucrative thing. No wonder Swan…er…Dan is attempting to discredit any criticism.
Dan on said:
“Leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”
How so Ray?
The videos showing doorstops?
Certainly not in the newspaper, like was the case when there WERE problems on the estate.
Nobody is making petitions or deputations at meetings of LBTH Council, like was the case when there WERE problems on the estate.
The RAGE site is long shut down, no longer producing hundreds of photos and videos, like was the case when there WERE problems on the estate.
So please enlighten us how “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”
Surely you don’t mean “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community” are behind videos of dangerous doorstops?
Please put some names behind this allegation that “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”, because they seem to be doing so in great secrecy.
Dan on said:
Since this thread is getting long lets repeat the facts: there is no newspaper coverage of this serious issue you people claim threaten us on The Exmouth Estate
There are no Councillors commenting on this serious issue.
There are no MPs visiting the estate, issuing motions in parliament about this serious issue.
There is no mention at LBTH Council meetings about this serious issue.
Time to face the facts: these alleged problems don’t exist and everyone cited above agrees.
The problems don’t exist any longer. As said before, you can’t find one REAL problem, thats why you’re posting years old newspaper stories.
That’s also why you’re quoting – dishonestly, out of context – people who long ago have agreed the problems are solved.
You’re making things up; thats why you insult when asked to present proof.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Keep Trolling Dan. Get a life. You just a bullyboy who thinks he/she is more important than anyone else. So in love with yourself and Swan Housing, take it from Swan Housing is rubbish landlord, end of.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Folks get ready for more BS from Dan, he doesn’t get out much, but when they let him out and he makes videos about planters, walls, doors, security camera and picnic areas.
Stop wasting your time with your obsessive videos over 100+.
His next target is to produce 200 videos of the same drivel. With titles like look what Swan made for us, Look how swan shined this turd to make it look good. Hollywood awaits you Dan with an Oscar.
YOU JUST BORING DAN same BS all the time- get out go on holiday. Get away from the Exmouth Estate, that’s if you really live here, most like live in Essex in Swan’s Head Office.
Just admit Swan Housing is a rubbish landlord and leave us all alone bullyboy.
Dan on said:
You’ve made yet another unsubstantiated statement:
“Leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”
Who are these “members of the council and other reliable members of the local community” who are “highlighting the problems with this estate”?
Those are your words, not mine. And when I simply ask a reasonable question – who are these people – you respond with insults. Its because you can’t answer, you’re making it up and, enraged because you were caught out in a lie, you lash out with insults.
Councillors can speak for themselves. Members of the local community can speak for themselves. Neither are speaking in the East London Advertiser, but don’t take my word for it, look at today’s edition here
http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&refresh=9t0J13SjfT06&PBID=9818a089-581b-4a32-aca3-057ae08b1168&skip
The agenda for last evenings Council meeting can be found here
http://moderngov.towerhamlets.gov.uk/ieListMeetings.aspx?CId=309
No mention of The Exmouth Estate at all.
We still wonder who are these “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community” who are “highlighting the problems with this estate”.
You wont’ even name these “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community” let alone direct us to websites or newspapers where we can read their statements “highlighting the problems with this estate”.
No, the problems don’t exist any longer.
Thats why you are posting newspaper stores that are years old and dishonestly quoting people out of context.
Dan on said:
Guess those “leading members of the council” who are “highlighting the problems with this estate” aren’t highlighting these problems at Council meetings.
We reviewed all the agendas from meetings of LBTH Council here
http://moderngov.towerhamlets.gov.uk/ieListMeetings.aspx?CId=309
And the last time The Exmouth Estate was mentioned was well over a year ago now.
But since we might have made a mistake, we’ve taken the liberty to email several LBTH Councillors this thread, where they can judge for themselves the veracity of your claims that they are “highlighting the problems with this estate”.
We do know several were on the estate recently for an inspection. And we do know they looked at the doorstop featured in your video, Truth on Exmouth Estate.
Seems like if they thought the doorstop was a legitimate problem they would have mentioned it, perhaps at the most recent Council meeting.
But they didn’t.
Seems like if residents thought there were still problems on the estate they would have submitted a petition or deputation at the most recent Council meeting.
But they didn’t.
Seems like if YOU, Truth on Exmouth Estate, really thought there were problem on the estate you could have spoken up.
But you didn’t.
No, you’d rather make these false and baseless claims anonymously.
It will be interesting to see if any Councillors chime in here to support your claims that “leading members of the council” are “highlighting the problems with this estate”.
We’re very interested to have someone finally tell us all what these problems really are.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Dan Your fake, a Fake, a FAKE.
Go on read the above blubber mouth. You getting confused, my comments are 9,13,22,23,27,29,35,36. The others comments are not mine or are you too backward to understand that.
Quote what you like, you just making your self look stupid.
You are lucky you can hide here, and cut out the we business, you are just a one man gang. On your own with loads of made up user names. When the going gets tough Swan will hang you out to dry, the dont give a damn about you, only profit.
Rave Broker on said:
SWAN HOUSING EXMOUTH ESTATE: T—H ON E——H you are right but D-n has tricked you . HE is talking about c——d w—s because that will detract from the main topic SWAN housing and cause the SocialisT unity website to go back to page 4 instead of page 2 where it currently is -dont fall for the trap and concentrate on swan housing’s faults only. D-N WANTS YOU TO ATTACK HIM AND NOT SWAN HOUSING EXMOUTH ESTATE
Dan on said:
Truth on Exmouth Estate / Ray / Rave Broker / New York DC, you’re all spreading more lies.
The photographs posted are not “spoofs”, as you claim. The majority of residents are “not unhappy” as you claim. We asked you to produce evidence supporting each claim and you respond with insults.
You know well there are NO “leading members of the council” who are “highlighting the problems with this estate” at Council meetings.
Readers, once again please don’t believe either of us but check for yourself :
http://moderngov.towerhamlets.gov.uk/ieListMeetings.aspx?CId=309
The last time The Exmouth Estate was mentioned was over a year ago now. Not much of a problem then is it, as those lads were at the council four times that year. They’d still be at it if there really were problems.
Still, we have alerted several more LBTH Councillors this thread. I’m sure they’ll join in soon – if your claims are correct that is – on the problems you claim exist really do.
After all, they were on the estate recently for an inspection. They looked at the doorstop in question. We’ll let them tell us here just how much of a problem it really is.
But regardless, if they thought the doorstop was a legitimate problem they would have mentioned it at the most recent Council meeting.
If residents thought there were still problems on the estate they would have submitted a petition or deputation at the most recent Council meeting.
If the RAGE people thought this was a problem they’d still be running their website.
Some bloke was paying to run advertisements in the ELA back when there WERE problems. He’s not running ads anymore, bloke must be happy.
In fact nobody but you has mentioned this “very serious” problem at all. It wasn’t in the newspaper, it wasn’t mentioned at Council, not mentioned on RAGE, no advertisements, no mention at all.
The problems you’re going on about either don’t exist, or were fixed years ago.
Finally, we’ve heard back from one Councillor about this thread; we’ll let that individual speak for themselves shortly but surprise was expressed that “age old stories” were being recirculated and misrepresented “as new”.
I don’t think this Councillor is too happy about having their name brought up in this thread.
We’ll continue alerting Councillors about how you’re bringing their names up. How these “leading members” are “highlighting the problems with this estate”.
I suspect you’re going to get more attention on this subject than you ever believed possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_falsehood
“You are lucky you can hide here,”
Why is that Truth on Exmouth Estate ? You’re not threatening me are you?
I might just have to wander down to Limehouse Station tomorrow. Just my luck runs out, and I can’t “hide here” anylonger.
Cheers for this.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Dan the way I see it is you are the only person on this thread who thinks Swan Housing is doing a great Job. I don’t see any other resident making positive comments here about Swan Housing. Just you.
I heard a story from a resident recently who attended a meeting where this guy, smartly dressed in a suit was complaining about Swan Housing. He told me he meet the man several month later dressed like a tramp and mumbling on about baking banana bread. I can only assume Swan housing has driven this poor resident nuts.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
No threats from me Dan, so go along to the police if you want to, they send you away.
Keep posting you stupid videos about planters, gates, picnic areas, walls, green spaces, just shows how obsessive nuts you are, and take leaf from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_falsehood
You seem to be an expert on this.
Anyone with any intelligence will see through your 100+ videos and come to to the conclusion that something is not right with you. What sane person would post that many videos about essentially nothing.
Your attempt is to paint a good picture of Swan Housing, no real resident will do in such a manner, unless they are paying paid or mad. Search youtube you will not find any other such obsessive behaviour.
There are still minor problems on the estate, nothing like the scale of several years ago, so there is no need to go to the council, the papers etc, but that does not mean people cant complain where there are problems. But you want to deny peoples right to complain with you bullyboy tactics.
Your no more than Swan’s gestapo, and if you had your way you get rid of anyone who disagrees with you.
Swan Housing is Rubbish Landlord
Dan on said:
Truth on Exmouth Estate, this
“You are lucky you can hide here,”
is a clear threat, in response to reasonable questions.
In this thread you consistently make statements you either can’t or won’t back up.
You claimed photographs posted were “spoofs”. We asked you to produce evidence supporting this claim and you respond with insults.
You claimed “the majority of residents are unhappy”. We asked you to produce evidence supporting this claim and once again you respond with insults.
You claim that “leading members of the council” are “highlighting the problems with this estate”, but there is absolutely NO mention of this in the Council’s own agenda or minutes.
When we look at past agendas from LBTH
http://moderngov.towerhamlets.gov.uk/ieListMeetings.aspx?CId=309
We see the Exmouth Estate hasn’t been mentioned in well over one year. Councilors we contacted about this thread haven’t heard mention of Exmouth at LBTH in well over one year.
The Exmouth Estate hasn’t been mentioned in an East London Advertiser story in well over one year.
The RAGE website has been down for well over one year.
It was very quiet on The Exmouth Estate until you started insisting there were “problems”, and “dangers”, but it would appear that you are the only person making these claims.
We haven’t see a Councillor openly agreeing with you.
The media doesn’t seem to agree with you.
Previously concerned residents on the estate, some of whom you have quoted out of context here, residents who didn’t hesitate to use their real legal name in the media or with the council, do not agree appear with you (we don’t speak for these people and neither do you, but they are silent).
Please post evidence supporting your claims. The insults are not productive and serve as evidence that find yourself trapped in a web of lies.
And your threats sir, were successfully noted this morning. I am uncomfortable with this aggressive behaviour in response to reasonable questions, and fear for my safety as well as my family’s safety.
“There are still minor problems on the estate”
NO, you’ve said several times these problems were a “DANGER TO LIFE AND LIMB”. Your own videos are clear on that statement. DANGERS, not “minor problems”.
Now you are flip flopping, and saying these problems are MINOR?
You clearly did read and understand the wikipedia entry.
“nothing like the scale of several years ago”
That is exactly what we’ve said since the start of this disagreement.
The problems now are not “dangers to life and limb”.
And nobody is bullying you. YOU have threatened ME. All I did was ask for evidence; who knows, I might have agreed with you. In response YOU threatened ME.
But now you admit you were exaggerating.
“Swan Housing is Rubbish Landlord”
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. We disagree, and know others that also disagree with you.
We don’t pretend to know if these views represent the majority of residents, but we are happy here.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Dear Blog Editor & any else who is interested.
I refuse to engage with the user name Dan any longer. This person is a fantisist with his 100+ obbsesive videos. He now thinks I am making threats to him, when clearly this is not the case, I never have and never will, and any case no one knows he is?
I will continue to highlight problems that exist on exmouth estate, un-deter by this above user’s bullyboy tactics.
I will no longer respond to the above mentioned user names rants. He is a clearly an OCD type, and he may or maynot resort to violence, vandalism or other measures to shut my freedom of speech down. I do not want to put the residents of the EXMOUTH ESTATE at risk from this OCD type, as he may target innocent parties in his vengence to shut my opinions down.
I would like to say to all readers there are still problems on the Exmouth Estate and this person is is belittling all exmouth estate residents by posting 100+ silly videos of planters, flowers, and gates and say how great they look and how brillant they are.
Swan Housing must listen to the people, the residents, and there is still a lot of work to do here.
Dan on said:
See Truth on Exmouth Estate here you go again with the insults :
“a fantasist”
“obsessive”
“bullyboy tactics”
YOU sir, threatened ME. These were YOUR words:
“You are lucky you can hide here,”
This clear threat was noted, with a printout of the entire thread. I shall shortly leave home and file an update of this most recent exchange.
“I will continue to highlight problems that exist on exmouth estate, un-deter by this above user’s bullyboy tactics.”
You of course are entitled to highlight problems. You should refrain from posting other people’s names, unless they agree with you. In which case we’d expect to see them posting themselves. NONE of the people you previously implied agree with you (either Councillors or a very prominent resident of the Exmouth Estate who previously was both vocal & visible on this topic) seem to have posted here in support of your complaints.
“I would like to say to all readers there are still problems on the Exmouth Estate”
Compare to the situation two years ago; it is much better as you yourself agree. But anyone reading this can come judge for themselves. After all, several Councillors recently held an inspection. Their silence speaks volumes.
“by posting 100+ silly videos of planters, flowers, and gates and say how great they look and how brillant they are.”
Regardless of your subjective comment (“silly”), we like the way the estate looks now. Much better than two years ago, as you yourself admit. Why can’t we post videos of how nice the estate looks? Its amazing how you repeatedly accuse us of bullying behaviour when you are clearly the aggressor, trying to stop us from posting our non spoof photographs of the estate.
You Sir, threatened us for posting these videos, for expressing our opinion. We never once in this entire thread were insulting, called you names, nor threatened you. We simply had the temerity to ask for evidence supporting your views.
Once again take heed Sir; your threats ( “You are lucky you can hide here,”) have been noted as we now have legitimate fears for our safety. Those receiving this complaint agreed with our prudent actions.
“Swan Housing must listen to the people, the residents”
I have never found them hard to speak with. I’m sorry you have, but would suggest you try again.
“and there is still a lot of work to do here.”
As you already admitted upthread, there are minor problems on the estate. Nothing like there was two years ago, when many people protested.
You should thank them all for their efforts on your behalf; we already have.
Rave Broker on said:
I agree Swan planted landscape gardens and other unimportant things for us but let’s not forget who paid for all these “niceties”-us the residents ,who else ? plus grants from the government .Moreover we are also paying for Swan Housing’s management fees-so do the right thing Swan Housing and thank your residents for financing your refurbishment of Exmouth Estate and thereby enhancing your dubious reputation
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Exmouth Residents keep on complaining if there are problems, get it on paper otherwise it will be denied any such complaints were ever made.
http://www.swan.org.uk/contact/making_a_complaint/
Together we wiil make sure Swan is held to account, and become a worthy and fair Registered Social Landlord.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
About 20% of the estate are elderly and find getting around the exmouth estate difficult.
So this video highlighting a trip hazard is a real concern if you are elderly or disabled.
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate -danger to life and limb2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqqfI_9QFc.
Dont take my word for it see what Age Concern has to say about falls/
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/get-involved/campaign/falls/
“Sometimes, it’s tripping over uneven paving stones, or feeling dizzy and falling because of our medication, but too many of us, up to 3.4 million of us over 65, suffer a fall each year. With the right action, up to half of these falls could be prevented. Age UK is campaigning to reduce the number of us who are falling”,
“We know that over 1 million falls can be prevented.”
Its only the foolish who laugh and joke about elderly peoples concerns.
We fully support Age Concern’s campaign, so come on Swan Housing get this trip hazard fixed.
Listen to the residents, because we pay your saliries.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
About 20% of the estate are elderly and find getting around the exmouth estate difficult.
So this video highlighting a trip hazard is a real concern if you are elderly or disabled.
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate -danger to life and limb2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqqfI_9QFc.
Dont take my word for it see what Age Concern has to say about falls/
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/get-involved/campaign/falls/
“Sometimes, it’s tripping over uneven paving stones, or feeling dizzy and falling because of our medication, but too many of us, up to 3.4 million of us over 65, suffer a fall each year. With the right action, up to half of these falls could be prevented. Age UK is campaigning to reduce the number of us who are falling”,
“We know that over 1 million falls can be prevented.”
Its only the foolish who laugh and joke about elderly peoples concerns.
We fully support Age Concern’s campaign, so come on Swan Housing get this trip hazard fixed.
Listen to the residents, because we pay your salaries.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
This video highlighting a trip hazard is a real concern if you are elderly or disabled.
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate -danger to life and limb2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqqfI_9QFc.
About 20% of the exmouth estate residents are elderly and find getting around the exmouth estate difficult.
Dont take my word for it see what Age Concern has to say about falls/
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/get-involved/campaign/falls/
“Sometimes, it’s tripping over uneven paving stones, or feeling dizzy and falling because of our medication, but too many of us, up to 3.4 million of us over 65, suffer a fall each year. With the right action, up to half of these falls could be prevented. Age UK is campaigning to reduce the number of us who are falling”,
“We know that over 1 million falls can be prevented.”
Its only the foolish who laugh and joke about elderly peoples concerns.
We fully support Age Concern’s campaign, so come on Swan Housing get this trip hazard fixed.
Listen to the residents Swan.
Rave Broker on said:
TRUTH old chap you are the voice of honesty and reason but if you think Swan Housing will one day toe the line then you are naive as well -Swan’s never change their spots -especially those whose habitat is the Exmouth estate
howard on said:
So it don!t matter that the council house you grew up in, you now own,mortgage wise anyway.Aren!t the capitalists clever cunning buggers,give them responsibility, give them something to own ,and they will forget their socialist ideals,or temper them.Got strike i can attend.
Dan on said:
Truth on Exmouth Estate what are we ever going to do with you?
You’re all over the place, acting very irrationally.
Lets look at your own words. A comment by Truth on Exmouth Estate — 29 October, 2010 @ 11:39 am
“Dear Blog Editor & any else who is interested.
I refuse to engage with the user name Dan any longer. ”
Having taken that principled stand, what do we read, less than three hours later – why its a comment by Truth on Exmouth Estate — 29 October, 2010 @ 1:51 pm
Ok. Since you won’t keep your word in this thread, since you’re not honouring commitments you made freely in this thread, why should we believe anything you write, here or anywhere else for that matter?
Further showing irrationality, you write
“He now thinks I am making threats to him, when clearly this is not the case”
Well Sir, everyone can read a comment by Truth on Exmouth Estate — 28 October, 2010 @ 7:37 pm
“You are lucky you can hide here,”
Clearly a threat, noted and interpreted as such. Agreed by multiple parties no less. Updated this morning as well to reflect the additional threats.
Then you write
“About 20% of the estate are elderly and find getting around the exmouth estate difficult.
So this video highlighting a trip hazard is a real concern if you are elderly or disabled.”
But your own advise to Exmouth Residents, in this thread no less, was to “get it on paper “. IN FACT you even went so far as to helpfully post the URL
http://www.swan.org.uk/contact/making_a_complaint/
So did you complain to Swan before posting your video? Did you “get it on paper”? Go through the internal complaints process? Approach the Ombudsman? Follow your own advise?
No you did not.
As further evidence of your irrational behaviour, you suggest that residents “get it on paper”, even as you yourself rush to make and post videos.
So Truth on Exmouth Estate, this is clearly a case of “do as I say, not as I do”, isn’t it?
Or do you have another motive for attempting to generate so much negative publicity?
Howard you speak the truth here “Aren!t the capitalists clever cunning buggers,give them responsibility, give them something to own ,and they will forget their socialist ideals,or temper them”
What we’re seeing with Truth on Exmouth Estate, all these inconsistencies, lies, threats, abusive behaviour in this thread and elsewhere is driven by one thing: greed.
Pure and simple. He knows it and we know it. He doesn’t like that won’t participate in their scam. He is threatening us because we have called attention to the duplicity and greed.
No, this lot doesn’t want a better estate. He even admits things are much better than they were two years ago, that existing problems are minor.
This lot wants one thing. He and others like him want a bailout.
Truth on Exmouth Estate please show some character here and honour the commitment you freely made to all of us:
“I refuse to engage with the user name Dan any longer. ”
Your greed is repulsive even when experienced indirectly via a medium such as the internet.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
This is great video about how to complain to Swan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8gc_ikulDU
Remember hold Swan Housing association to account they are geting away with overpricing the the poor residents of the Exmouth Estate.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Swan Housing Association, four Years of ownership
and Four years of price rises for Rents & service charges on the Exmouth Estate.
Swan Housing Association = poor service + poor value for money.
Who pays? The poor residents of the Exmouth estate while Swans pays their dirctors fat cat salaries.
Dan on said:
Comment by Truth on Exmouth Estate — 29 October, 2010 @ 2:16 pm
“This video highlighting a trip hazard is a real concern if you are elderly or disabled.
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate -danger to life and limb2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqqfI_9QFc.”
going further to say
“Don’t take my word for it … ”
and in doing so openly taking credit for the video YOU created and posted to youtube. The video that claims a doorstop is “a danger to live and limb”.
Interesting name you’re using on youtube to publish that video, Truth on Exmouth Estate. So now we know two of your pseudonyms; your own misstatements have revealed the truth. You should have used just one.
Why do you also post videos under different user names such as mamakupucho or MrStepneyrocker? How many false names do you use, in an attempt to give the illusion of widespread concerns and complaints where none really exist?
Like your quickly broken promise never to respond to my comments, using multiple alias’ are are not the actions of an honest man. These are hardly the actions of someone who is genuinely motivated to help others.
You’ve posted extracts from the East London Advertiser where a resident of the Exmouth Estate gave several speeches at Town Hall protesting conditions (that we both agree have long been rectified); he used his real name, he didn’t parade under multiple pseudonyms.
Truth on Exmouth Estate you’ve been caught in several lies. And you’ve admitted to grievously exaggerating the scale of problems on the estate, now agreeing they are not “dangers to life and limb”, but “minor problems”.
Considering your history of duplicity and two facedness, of promises broken, grievous exaggerations in this thread alone, let alone youtube, do you believe anyone will take anything you say seriously?
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Exmouth Estate Disgrace by Swan Housing Association.
It took Swan Housing Assocition almost 4 years to secure this entrance on The Exmouth Estate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JAjX9mi3Q
video courtesy of http://www.youtube.com/user/mamakupucho
Rave Broker on said:
Swan housing’s stooge Truth on Exmouth I have finally sussed you out -or should i say Dan? you are both the same person so is everyone else who has written after the ninth entry -what is more i also know your true identity -I wont tell you how you how you betrayed yourself -i will keep that to myself so that i can catch you out the next time -
The readers should know that all these arguments between Dan and yourself are staged with the sole purpose of wasting space on this wonderful website so that readers wont get to read the genuine negative comments about SWAN housing
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Rave
I am Nothing to do with Dan, just insulted by the endless tirade of his good news videos about the Exmouth Estate. So please dont call me a stooge. I am here to to balance the view that not all is “lovely lovely” on the estate.
Fours years of poor service from Swan Housing Association, can drive anyone mad.
Dan on said:
I admit I am crazy. I apologise to all of you on this forum.
Dan on said:
Hello Rave Broker, or let’s just call you Mr Anonymous Internet Man for the purposes of this comment.
“what is more i also know your true identity”
But of course you do.
“I wont tell you how you how you betrayed yourself -i will keep that to myself so that i can catch you out the next time ”
Oh no, you’re going to catch me out – again? Shock, horror! I am SO worried.
Ok Mr Anonymous Internet man, bluff and bluster all you like.
We both know what is really going on: it was such a silly mistake and your pride is clearly hurt, two of your pseudonyms have been easily and publicly linked (and in a few short hours will be permanently recorded in google’s cache) and now you have an awkward situation; the best course of action is to delete that youtube pseudonym and repost the alarmist false video under another name. But if you do delete that youtube pseudonym you’ll lose your youtube rank, something you care so dearly about. We know this is true because you never complained in writing to Swan about the “problem” in your video, you only used the “problem” to create negative publicity.
With each passing moment your tension grows; you know that permanently recorded evidence could potentially lead to serious problems in the future, as many of your comments – here as well as on other web sites – are close to, perhaps already actionable. And when do your comments cross the line? You don’t really know.
Also concerning: you know IPs are logged, all of your multiple IDs you post under are traceable back to you at your home computer; the government long ago removed such anonymity, even from internet cafes – now you must wonder why on earth did you say the things you said?
That sir, is the torment of the liar. When you construct a twisted web of multiple user ids, solely in an attempt to deceive, to post malicious falsehoods anonymously, when you imply third parties – Councilors and individuals of some standing in the local community – agree with your views by quoting them out of context, well, you’re absolutely right to be nervous with worry.
What you’re doing is both dishonourable and wrong.
Dan on said:
But ok Rave Broker, I’ll play :
“so that readers wont get to read the genuine negative comments about SWAN housing”
What “genuine negative comments”?
Councillors are quiet about the purported “problems”.
Newspapers – always willing to print news, mind you – are quiet about the purported “problems”.
The RAGE website, once hosting several thousand photographs, is quiet about the purported “problems”.
Prominent residents of the estate, who previously spoke up about real problems are quiet about the purported “problems”.
OH you mean the comments posted here? Do you honestly believe these anonymous comments are “genuine”?
Well let me tell you this: once upon a time, when there were REAL problems on the Exmouth Estate, these problems were reported in the newspapers, at LBTH Council, at public meetings, where a certain individual stood up, stated his name and the problem, and demanded action.
You’re not that man, are you, Mr Anonymous Internet Man?
No, you’re just another Anonymous Internet Man, making stuff up.
Ray on said:
Dan, you claim that Swan is taking care of the estate. Tell me, do you think 250 broken windows, damp in the homes of vulnerable elderly people and broken security doors are a sign of a competent and considerate landlord? As I pointed out George Galloway, recently an MP in the area and a number of leading estate activists are exposing these disgraceful conditions. I’ll bet that Swan’s new HQ doesn’t have a problem with damp, broken windows and no security. It’s a case of do as we say and not as we do from you and Swan isn’t it.
Dan on said:
Ray, contrary to your claim there are no longer “250 broken windows” on the estate.
Maybe there were two years ago, when those OLD news stories were published in East End Life. But not now. If you have evidence to the contrary please post it.
Of course back then a Canadian lad went to the newspapers, went to meetings of the full council, he gave speeches he did about these problems. Got them fixed too. There are no longer “250 broken windows” on the estate.
And please tell who are these “leading estate activists” who are are “exposing these disgraceful conditions”?
Not the same crew that were active two years ago. They were public, their full, legal names printed in the East London Advertiser, in the Daily Mail, in minutes of the LBTH Council meetings.
Who are you Ray?
Just another anonymous internet man, it would seem.
Dan on said:
Oh and Ray, I remind you of your previous (apparently false) statements:
“Leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”
Please tell us how this is being done Ray?
By videos showing doorstops?
Not in the East London Advertiser. Of course once upon a time there were lots of newspaper stories, when there WERE problems on the estate.
And nobody, absolutely nobody, is presenting petitions or deputations to meetings of LBTH Council, like they did when there WERE problems on the estate.
Guess what Ray? The RAGE site has long been shut down. Those folks seem happy. Of course years ago, before you were on the scene Ray they were producing hundreds of photos and videos. Back then Ray, there WERE problems on the estate.
But not now Ray. And you know it.
So please enlighten us Ray, how “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”.
Ray, we once again ask you to please put some names behind your apparently false allegation that “leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”.
As we said before, these people are apparently operating in great secrecy.
No publicity in newspapers = no real problems.
Thanks Ray.
Rave Broker on said:
You are wrong about me , Dan, lad of Exmouth ,NY whatever. I don’t have to dissimulate my pseudonym . All my videos are true and I will welcome Swan trying to take court action against me. You were the one that was scared of Swan taking action against you. There are a lot more videos on the way -unlike yours they reflect the truth.I am well aware that if Swan wanted to get my IP address through a court order they can. They are welcome but they also know that I have solid evidence to back what I put on the web. They know it is me anyway -have a nice night -you seem to be fretting more than I. More to come dude.
Dan on said:
Hello Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al
Another stupid mistake, another pseudonym blown. YOUR videos or Truth on Exmouth Estate’s videos? Or that other pseudonym on the youtube videos? Now you’ve give yourself up AGAIN, another careless act. You admit that you post under THREE separate user ids, on this board?
“You are wrong about me , Dan, lad of Exmouth ,NY whatever. I don’t have to dissimulate my pseudonym”
But you HIDE behind this pseudonym and at least two others! If you had courage in your convictions, like those who were protesting against the REAL problems that existed over two years ago, you’d use your REAL LEGAL NAME.
Those lads did in the East London Advertiser.
Those lads did at full meetings of LBTH council.
So why are you hiding?
Just go to the East London Advertiser and tell the your story. Whoops! YOU ALREADY HAVE! And they declined to write it up.
Ok, just go to a local councillor and tell them your story. Oh now, did you do that also? Did they decline to get involved? Looks like it.
So get a petition or deputation together, go to a full meeting on LBTH Council. Why now? What’s that? You shouldn’t be afraid of doing this, they are very friendly down there and others have come before you, complaining of problems. Are you afraid they won’t believe you either?
We have no idea what your problem is Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al. Why you hide in the dark. We suspect it is because you know, deep in your heart, that what you say is false, that the videos you make are exaggerations, that you are living a lie.
The problems you insist exist DONT. Two years ago there were problems. Now there are minor problems.
And why are you trying to make this about me? Why would I be “scared of Swan taking action”?
Because I – in your own words – posted 100+ videos showing how nice the estate it?
That’s absurd. No, Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al, the reality is you don’t have any “solid evidence to back what” you “put on the web”.
If you did the newspapers would have it.
If you did the Councillors would have it.
If you did you’d make these charges using your full, legal name. At the council. In the newspapers. Not here. No, you’d do this openly, like others did two years ago. You know, back when there REALLY WERE problems.
No, you making stuff up because if you REALLY “had evidence” we’d all be reading about it in the objective press, not on a subjective web site.
We’d all be hearing about it from legitimate sources, not anonymous web sites.
You know, like people did two years ago, back when there were REAL problems on The Exmouth Estate. Not the made up problems (doorstops, crushed worms, plugged drains) you have posted videos of.
“More to come dude.”
You’re going to MAKE MORE STUFF UP?
You almost sound proud of your ability to tell lies.
Carry on then.
rave broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate
DAN “Doorstops” are “made up problems” you say in entry 69. It doesn’t exist according to you . Any resident can go to the end of Musbury street and verify it for themselves. You are living in another planet.
We all have pseudonyms not because we are propagating lies but because we need a bit of privacy. Until YOU (I know you well )advised me to use a pseudonym I went under my real name . Besides going under my real name i found people ringing my doorbell in the early hours of the morning. But in the videos that will follow shortly you will see evidence that only relates to me -Swan would have no problem identifying me and if challenged I would never deny that I am the author of the video blogs because they reflect nothing but the truth. When the doorstop is removed so will my blog be removed. When the other blogs are no longer valid and the problem is solved they will also be removed. I have already done that in the past -removed invalid videos. Some videos however will stay for a length of time if I consider that Swan has done something very dangerous like leaving smashed windows unboarded and only sorted out the problem after I phoned East End Advertiser.
Would newspapers run articles against Swan Housing at the present moment ? I think not unless it is a real hot scoop. I think they would rather phone Swan Housing and request Swan Housing to deal with the problem instead. Swan is a good customer of many local newspapers and nobody would want to enrage customers when you can persuade them by other means.
I notice you leaving large spaces in your blogs between your sentences.This is aimed at making it difficult for honest readers to find out the truth about Swan Housing Exmouth Estate. Whenever anything negative is said about Swan Housing Exmouth you envelope the entry with a dozen blogs in which you repeat the same things all over again “doorstops , crushed worms ,etc” typical Americanism -the discerning reader will suss you out. You have done the same on Youtube. Flooded the handful of genuine complaints with more than a hundred and twenty Ste—y L-d blogs. YOu are doing a bad job for whoever is paying you -you are lagging in the charts. I Sir am posting blogs because I am fed up of Swan riding roughshod over the residents most of whom are terrified to speak out publicly.
Yes things are better now in the Exmouth Estate under Swan Housing only beause of this truthful publicity which is embarassing Swan . Remember the Exmouth Estate was smashed up UNDER SWANS WATCH NOT LBTH’S . NEVER FORGET THAT . AND NEVER FORGET THAT WE THE RESIDENTS PAID FOR THE REGENERATION OF THE ESTATE WHICH WAS SMASHED UP UNDER SWAN’S WATCH AFTER 2006. SWAN HAVE USED OUR MONEY AND GOVERNMENT GRANTS TO RENOVATE A SMASHED UP ESTATE -SMASHED UP UNDER THEIR WATCH -THEY LEFT THE ENTRANCES UNREPAIRED,SOME FOR AS LONG AS 3 YEARS -SO WE FOOT THE BILL FOR THE NEW RAILINGS,GRAFFITI, PULLED OUT CABLES,ETC. WE NEVER HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH LBTH. IS IT THAT THE “VANDALS” HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE MILITANT SINCE MAY 2006 ???
So much for Swan Housing and the Exmouth Estate
rave broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate
DAN “Doorstops” are “made up problems” you say in entry 69. It doesn’t exist according to you . Any resident can go to the end of Musbury street and verify it for themselves. You are living in another planet.
We all have pseudonyms not because we are propagating lies but because we need a bit of privacy. Until YOU (I know you well )advised me to use a pseudonym I went under my real name . Besides going under my real name i found people ringing my doorbell in the early hours of the morning. But in the videos that will follow shortly you will see evidence that only relates to me -Swan would have no problem identifying me and if challenged I would never deny that I am the author of the video blogs because they reflect nothing but the truth. When the doorstop is removed so will my blog be removed. When the other blogs are no longer valid and the problem is solved they will also be removed. I have already done that in the past -removed invalid videos. Some videos however will stay for a length of time if I consider that Swan has done something very dangerous like leaving smashed windows unboarded and only sorted out the problem after I phoned East End Advertiser.
Would newspapers run articles against Swan Housing at the present moment ? I think not unless it is a real hot scoop. I think they would rather phone Swan Housing and request Swan Housing to deal with the problem instead. Swan is a good customer of many local newspapers and nobody would want to enrage customers when you can persuade them by other means.
I notice you leaving large spaces in your blogs between your sentences.This is aimed at making it difficult for honest readers to find out the truth about Swan Housing Exmouth Estate. Whenever anything negative is said about Swan Housing Exmouth you envelope the entry with a dozen blogs in which you repeat the same things all over again “doorstops , crushed worms ,etc” typical Americanism -the discerning reader will suss you out. You have done the same on Youtube. Flooded the handful of genuine complaints with more than a hundred and twenty Ste—y L-d blogs. YOu are doing a bad job for whoever is paying you -you are lagging in the charts. I Sir am posting blogs because I am fed up of Swan riding roughshod over the residents most of whom are terrified to speak out publicly.
Yes things are better now in the Exmouth Estate under Swan Housing only beause of this truthful publicity which is embarassing Swan . Remember the Exmouth Estate was smashed up UNDER SWANS WATCH NOT LBTH’S . NEVER FORGET THAT . AND NEVER FORGET THAT WE THE RESIDENTS PAID FOR THE REGENERATION OF THE ESTATE WHICH WAS SMASHED UP UNDER SWAN’S WATCH AFTER 2006. SWAN HAVE USED OUR MONEY AND GOVERNMENT GRANTS TO RENOVATE A SMASHED UP ESTATE -SMASHED UP UNDER THEIR WATCH -THEY LEFT THE ENTRANCES UNREPAIRED,SOME FOR AS LONG AS 3 YEARS -SO WE FOOT THE BILL FOR THE NEW RAILINGS,GRAFFITI, PULLED OUT CABLES,ETC. WE NEVER HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH LBTH. IS IT THAT THE “VANDALS” HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE MILITANT SINCE MAY 2006 ???
So much for Swan Housing and the Exmouth Estate
Dan on said:
Good morning Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al
So many pseudonyms, but thanks for coming clean and admitting you are posting the same stuff under multiple identities, here as well as on youtube. So all this noise is from one individual.
Of course the motivation for posting under multiple identities so is obvious; try to give the impression of widespread discontent where it doesn’t really exist.
The doorstop is exaggerated, and even though you advise that residents WRITE LETTERS you instead MAKE VIDEOS.
Why is that? Solely to generate negative publicity, not to really solve the problem.
Or did you approach our landlord, who declined to address this “problem”, so now you are insisting you’re going to get your way? The “problem” you and you alone are concerned with will be fixed – YOUR WAY?
“Until YOU (I know you well )advised me to use a pseudonym I went under my real name . Besides going under my real name i found people ringing my doorbell in the early hours of the morning. ”
I have no idea who you are but here you go threatening me again; you imply you know me and in the same sentence mention that you “found people ringing my doorbell in the early hours of the morning. ”
Is this another threat? Yes, I will report this, especially so as I now fear becoming the victim of the ASB you threaten me with (ringing doorbell in the early hours of the morning). The safety of my wife and little ones will not come into this; you should be ashamed for making repeated threats.
I have no idea who you are, except you post exaggerations under multiple pseudonyms and imply you know me. While I don’t believe you do know me, I shall visit Limehouse once again.
“When the doorstop is removed so will my blog be removed. ”
Have you complained about this in a letter, as you’ve advised residents to do with their issues? NO. Your sole goal is to create negative publicity over what you admit in this thread is a minor problem.
“Would newspapers run articles against Swan Housing at the present moment ? I think not unless it is a real hot scoop.”
Newspapers run stories if the problems and issues are REAL. Your DOORSTOP is not a REAL problem, and here is a tip: you lose credibility when you describe a doorstop as a “danger to life and limb”. Go back and recreate your video, describing this as a “concern” and you’ll get further. Exaggeration doesn’t help.
We both know you’ve approached the East London Advertiser and they declined to run a story.
We both know you’ve approached Councilors, and they’ve declined to address your concerns.
You probably approached our MP and guess what and they’ve declined to address your concerns.
Not like the situation two years ago, when there were REAL problems. You know, when this thread was originally launched.
And that begs the obvious question: why aren’t you posting this in a NEW thread?
That’s right. Its all made up, made up by you, so there is NO new thread. No MP visiting the estate, to help you solve the made up “problems”.
“most of whom are terrified to speak out publicly.”
Why on earth would people “be terrified to speak out”? That never stopped a residents two years ago. This is another exaggeration and how do I know this?
Any reader can verify that there are lots of people coming to our monthly board meetings. These individuals are not afraid to speak out. The meetings are rather vocal sometimes, actually. These people have genuine, real problems. Not the made up problems you’re filming and exaggerating rather than reporting and solving.
That describes you in two words; film and exaggerate.
But please go ahead and post more videos of these “problems”.
Its telling that you and you alone are voicing these concerns.
No newspaper stories. No Councilors speaking out. No MPs supporting your concerns. No petitions presented at Council meetings. No ads in the ELA. No websites. No public meetings where problems are raised, petitions circulated, signed. No collective action.
Like was the case when there were real problems.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Blah Blah Blah. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Swan Housing- Exmouth Estate Disgrace.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Rave don’t bother engaging.
Many exmouth estate residents know Swan Housing Association is a lousy social landlord interested only in making profits by overcharging tenants and leaseholders.
How else can they afford to pay directors £100,000+OTE salaries
http://appointments.thesundaytimes.co.uk/job/399946/director-of-sales
In thier own words “We require a modern and energetic front of office Director of Sales steeped in commercial sales experience, who knows the East London and Essex market landscape, to put together radical sales strategies to match our programme of 500 property sales per year.”
“You must be motivated and enthusiastic about joining our team and working our way – someone from the old school of sales is not what we are looking for!”
The final sentences says all- we want profit over everything.
Social Landlord what social land, not Swan. Get ready for at least 100 extra properties crammed on to the Exmouth Estate green spaces. Some people welcome this but most oppose.
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate Disgrace continues.
Truth on Exmouth Estate on said:
Q: So why doesn’t this Social Land lord Swan Housing to the right thing and hand over this properties to social renting immediately?
Http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8459123.Call_for_unsold_new_flats_to_be_let_out_to_tenants/
Swan Housing Association we dont want the same situation on the Exmouth Estate- NO THANK YOU.
Dan on said:
Good afternoon Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al
“Blah Blah Blah. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooring”
Once again your eloquence speaks volumes about the validity of your statements.
Let me give you a hint: verbs and sentences form paragraphs. You should make an effort sometime.
But lets look further at the lies and bombastic statements you make under at least five pseudonyms on this board alone:
You claim that residents “ are terrified to speak out publicly.”
You’re lying. When there were problems we went to the council. We used our real names too. You were never there. Do you even live on The Estate? We are beginning to doubt this.
You claimed the photographs we post are “spoofs”.
But you lied, as you later admitted in this thread.
You claim “majority of residents are unhappy”.
Another lie. You have no evidence and instead insult us when asked to produce it.
You claim a doorstop is a “danger to life and limb”.
An exaggeration at best.
And look at this whopper – you said “I refuse to engage with the user name Dan any longer. ”
Then you start right back in, telling your lies and not only that threatening (which has indeed been reported, three times now in person with a reference number and no, you don’t “know me” so please don’t dispense vigilante justice on whaever poor innocent resident comes to the forefront of your fervid imagination).
Once again, readers please note that a single individual, operating alone, is voicing these concerns. Through pseudonyms, of course. But all five pseudonyms have been linked, and in this thread no less.
Readers note all we have done, many times now, is disagree and (civilly) ask questions. We are fully allowed to do this.
In response this single individual lashes out with insults and when we stay calm and repeat our questions, threatens us and our family several times thusly :
“You are lucky you can hide here”
“I know you well”
“people ringing my doorbell in the early hours of the morning”
Yes, those were clearly threats and agreed with as such when we reported them. We will report any and all ASB that comes our way, and insure this board is as a tool to find who is behind these threats and the ASB that resulted.
But back to the matter at hand.
Curious that there are no newspaper stories about these “problems”.
That there are no Councilors speaking out about these “problems”.
That there are no MPs addressing these “problems”.
That there are no petitions presented at Council meetings describing these “problems”.
That there are no ads in the ELA imploring people to assist with these “problems”.
That there are no letters in the ELA where these “problems” are complained about by residents.
That there are no websites publicising these “problems”.
That there are no public meetings where residents discuss these “problems”, circulate and sign petitions, then approach Councillors and the media for help solving these “problems”.
That there is no collective action, in other words.
That there is no collection action as we saw on Exmouth where there were problems.
No, this is just one person using five anonymous pseudonyms on the internet.
One person with a video camera, who films and exaggerates.
Then threatens and bullies those who disagree with his views.
If there were real problems there would be a new thread on this board.
And there isn’t.
Instead this person is posting his lies and exaggerations in a thread that is over eighteen months old.
Why? Because there are no real problems. No serious problems. He even admits in this thread that the problems are “minor”
So there are just minor problems one person is trying to blow all out of proportion.
By using two year old newstories, in an eighteen month old thread.
By using five imaginary pseudonyms in a crude attempt to create the illusion of widespread problems and discontent.
Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / et al you have blown your credibility here and we know your blew it with the ELA. They won’t even answer your emails or phone calls. Blew it with Councillors also, who don’t seem interested in your “problems”.
The media and Councilors routinely ignore you (that must be terribly frustrating, by the way), and nobody reading this thread believes your statements. The only anonymous internet people that agree with you are the pseudonyms you make up.
We respectfully suggest that if our questions and views anger you so much you show some honour, backbone and integrity, and “refuse to engage with the user name Dan any longer.”
Cheers.
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate : If you want to know the true background about how the Exmouth Estate came to be destroyed and then resurrected watch this video. Why did Swan Housing Exmouth Estate take four years to secure the Musbury Street entrance when the iron gate was finally activated on 7 Sep 2010 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAQjf3jsL8
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate’s mismangement when we suffered acute water stoppages between 2006 and 2007 must never be forgotten because they might do the same thing again when they take over another estate , G-d forbid.We suffered a total of more than five months of water stoppages , 4 months of which were acute when we didn’t have drinking water and hot water for up to 20 hours a day,the remaining time the water would be under very low pressure. Whereas Swan Housing kept blaming Thames Water’s Victoria Mains Replacement project as the root cause of our woes Swan Housing forgets that oud problems with water stoppages preceeded the Victoria mains project by 3 months. Besides the Victoria mains projest never causes such mammoth disruption of water supply except for probably a few hours when they switch the supply over, and that too Thames Water are always courteous enough to alert you by posting a leaflet through your letterbox.
For the full story see my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt0wXT3Un7k
Dan on said:
Readers, pay attention to the tense of the points made here :
“when the iron gate was finally activated on 7 Sep 2010 ?”
So the problem is fixed. Why on earth is this individual making so much noise about a problem THAT IS FIXED?
“suffered acute water stoppages between 2006 and 2007″
Once again, a story of THE PAST. From 2006.
Further up this thread you’ll see stories from two 2008 presented.
This thread was originally started by residents who approached George Galloway about problems we had in 2008. George put forward a motion to help us and his efforts paid off.
The problems, the fundamental reasons this thread was started eighteen months ago ARE FIXED. They are LONG RESOLVED.
The problems this individuals notes (under yet ANOTHER pseudonym, mamakupucho) have long ago been fixed.
Why does he get so upset when we post photographs of how the estate is NOW?
To the point of making repeated threats in this thread?
Why does he constantly post the ‘Swan Housing Exmouth Estate’
He is link bombing, trying to generate hits on his youtube channel, selfishly using Socialistunity to drive his personal agenda, threatening the viability of this wonderful resource.
Curious there are over 2,500 people living on the Exmouth Estate and he’s the only one complaining (and no, the six or so internet pseudonyms he uses in crude, dishonest attempts to deceive don’t count). He claims were are all intimidated.
Curious the local media, who ran several stories critical of Swan in the past, aren’t publishing these complaints. He claims it is because Swan is a good client.
Curious leading residents of the estate (one of which was quoted in this thread several times in yet another crude attempt at deception) aren’t sharing these complaints. He posted their names in this thread in a crude, dishonest attempt to infer they agree with him.
Curious local Councillors, always willing to help with problems on The Exmouth Estate, aren’t supporting these complaints. They are now totally silent about this estate.
Curious our MP isn’t, like the Honourable Mr Galloway, (our very helpful previous MP) isn’t supporting these complaints. Total silence about the estate.
Curious petitions aren’t being submitted at LBTH about these complaints. Nobody has approached me with any petition for almost two years.
But its not really curious; this is strong evidence the problems he’s going on about, simply don’t exist. Nobody agrees with him. He’s making it all up. Presenting old news as new news in another crude attempt to deceive, to make people believe these problems still exist.
But don’t believe either of us: come to the estate, take a look around and you’ll see well maintained buildings. Talk to some of the residents about living conditions.
Sure there were problems. As he’s continuously documenting, IN THE PAST.
We residents of the Exmouth Estate don’t care much about the past.
We care about our living conditions NOW.
And they are fine. Small problems, sure. We had them under LBTH too. But nothing like the problems of two years ago.
Finally, what he won’t tell you is that WE RESIDENTS VOTED to transfer to Swan.
Residents were given the opportunity to vote. We CHOSE to transfer from LBTH to Swan.
Democracy ruled but, sadly, some vocal individuals are trying to bully us into their view.
The threats he made here in this thread are a small example of the negative energy these people emit in person.
Most residents of the estate don’t care to be around them as they are constantly negative. About Swan, about the weather and, as you’ve seen in this thread, about doorstops, crushed worms, politics, past incidents. Nothing good to say about anyone or anything. Pure negative energy.
Negative energy such as that exhibited in this thread are symptoms of unbalances, frustrations in other aspects of the individuals life.
We hope our neighbour gets better. That he cleanses the negative energy from his life.
But we suspect he’ll soon be back in this thread.
Agonising over ancient history, perhaps bullying and threatening those who disagree with his negative views.
mik on said:
much ado about nothing& old old news as well. i live on a council run estate but me sis is on the exmouth and its grand. wish i could get me a flat there we have lots of problems we do on council estate and slow repairs.now they tell us cuts cuts cuts when we complain.organised we are too,doesnt matter that we get signaturs on our complaints.cuts cuts cuts!! bloody condems.
if this lot bbehave have as bad in person as they do on this web sight dont blame you at all for not having anything to do with them. i woudnt.acting like bloody twats!
you lot have nothing to cmplain about on exmouth come to our estate and you will know real problem and were talking about doors that took months to mend.fight thecuts!
– mik
Rave Broker on said:
Hello Dan , milk, Stepney lad and whatever you call yourself -even milk leaves large gaps like you between lines -it will take more than the likes of you to trick me . You are a master of pseudonyms. As for me my last two videos, they leave no doubt as to my identity -only I was privy to that footage and those letters. Don’t fool yourself .I am not trying to hide my identity from Swan -they know me well.They know i am well documented and can prove everything i say. You are the one who has a lot to hide -about 20 or more pseudonyms. Unlike you , who unwittingly leave clues as to the connections between your pseudonyms. You are doing a bad job and are not earning your keep.
Dan on said:
Good afternoon once again Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / mamakupucho / et al.
Please show some honesty and integrity and keep your word; you promised to no longer “engage with the user name Dan any longer.”
Please be honest for once.
Each time you break your word – your word that was freely given here – you call reasonable doubt on the veracity of your complaints.
And the reason so many people complain about your behaviour here is you are a bully; abusive and a coward as well.
You threaten those who disagree with you.
Why are you so interested in who I am? I just disagree with you. I think things are better than they were two years ago, you disagree. But you are determined you will find out who I am. Why? Are you threatening again to dispense “street justice”.
Well Sir, I have reported these threats you’ve made. And if anything happens to my property, my person, my wife or my little ones, anything, the authorities know fully well where to begin their investigations.
Regardless, this negativity isn’t good for your health. The lying you are engaging in, the constant negativity, the abuse and bullying is not appropriate.
You ignore that WE RESIDENTS VOTED for Swan.
You had a vote. If you lost the election then please respect the democratic process. We all VOTED. Like it or not, this was the outcome.
You engage in bullying, both on this board and in person, with people that disagree with your view that the estate was better off with LBTH. We disagree. And we are entitled to our opinion. YOU are the aggressor on this board, an anonymous coward who is threatening from behind a pseudonym.
You sir, are clearly in hiding. You strut and boast like the stereotypical bully, claiming they know who you are when the don’t. Your hiding behind pseudonyms.
If you had any honesty and integrity you’d petition The Council about your problems. But you won’t, since then you’d have to put your full, legal name on the complaint.
If you had any honesty and integrity you’d engage the media about your problems. But you won’t because they will need your full, legal name to back your complaint.
If you had any honesty and integrity you’d write a letter to Swan as you’ve told others to do. But you won’t because they will need your full, legal name to investigate your complaint.
If you had any honesty and integrity you would keep your own word, and no longer ” “engage with the user name Dan”.
Instead you film and exaggerate. You lie, bully and threaten.
And you do it all anonymously, hiding behind pseudonyms.
Please stop the bullying of people who disagree with your views.
We realise being ignored by the media, by Councillors, by MPs and by the many residents is frustrating. We are sympathetic. But maybe the problem isn’t with them, but with yourself? With your complaints?
As stated, there are almost 2,500 people living on the estate. And you, you ALONE sir, consider a doorstop a problem. A crushed worm a problem. A plugged drain a problem. Only you believe these to be problems.
By your behaviour here you are convincing nobody here of your altruism, your honesty, your integrity.
Quite the contrary.
Rave Broker on said:
You Dan who , employed by swan housing exmouth estate are a split personality.You are a lonely man with nothing better to do than to make up fictitious personalities like La from Step , Milk etc,etc. You make up fictitious arguments between your characters so as to justify your presence in this website and waste space.Then you complain the the management that one of your characters is arguing with you . You definitely get a high on all this . I don’t share your fetishes. The things you do for Swan housing eXmouTh EstaTE !!! I hope Swan Housing of the exmouth make it worth your while ? like making 200 cheap videos of praise to flood Youtube to keep Swan’s detractors at bay and then come to this respectable website to flood it with american phrases leaving large spaces between each line. You are a waste of space in all the senses of the word.I hope you are being observed by the editors of this website and that they recognise you for what you are ,an employee of Swan doing his job the only way he can , but failing miserably ,to discourage democratic expression of ones opinions.
This is a democracy , or do you need reminding ? So if a murderer murdered children yesterday , today his crimes should be forgotten because he is not likely to commit them again ???? They should be forgotten should they , and the world can rest assured that all will be well in future ? In case you didn’t know 4 years is a long time to leave a gate unsecured , a gate that leads to hundreds of flats within the Exmouth estate. This is certainly not Swan Housing of the Exmouth Estate’s first misdemeanour. Swan Housing of the Exmouthestate never seems to learn from past mistakes. Go on go to bed .
Dan on said:
Readers once again note how honourable Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / mamakupucho / et al, really is.
He says, at his own initiative, that he will not “engage with the user name Dan any longer.” And then he picks right up.
With the insults. With the threats. With the false charges (“working for Swan”). He won’t answer reasonable questions.
He posts “Leading members of the council and other reliable members of the local community are highlighting the problems with this estate”. And then lashes out with insults when we ask a simple question “Who?”
As some of you have emailed me here are the facts: no Councillor agrees with him. No “reliable members of the local community” agree with him.
When we put simple questions to him – which Councillors? Which members of the community? Instead of proving a simple, clear answer that would eliminate all doubt of his honesty and demonstratively rebut our charges he insults. He equivocates. And finally he threatens.
He’s spent an inordinate amount of energy trying to find out who I am.
Why? Why does he attack the messenger, and not the message?
Because he’s making this all up. But you don’t even have to visit the estate to see this; ask yourself why anyone would post four year old news stories and two year old news stories in a thread that is over eighteen months old?
BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS ARE FIXED. THERE ARE NO NEW PROBLEMS.
Why is he bring names of third parties into this thread? People who haven’t posted in this thread, people who probably aren’t even aware of this thread? Why is he implying they agree with him?
Has he asked these Councillors and prominent members of the local community their views? He is implying they agree with him but, strangely, none of them post here. Or are found in the media.
And all were very vocal in their time; if there were problems they still would be engaging.
But they aren’t.
Why is that?
BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS ARE FIXED. THERE ARE NO NEW PROBLEMS.
These crude attempts at deception would fool nobody reading this thread. These crude attempts at deception would fool nobody visiting the Exmouth Estate.
Because of his lies in this thread “I will not engage with the user name Dan any longer” you know the validity of his charges; they are all made up.
He says that anyone who disagrees with him, even The East London Advertiser is corrupt, taking money instead of pursuing the truth (“nobody would want to enrage customers”). Look at any issue of the ELA; where are the ads by Swan?
The ELA is a wonderful newspaper, who helped us all on Exmouth WHEN WE HAD GENUINE PROBLEMS.
Why would he seek to damage their reputation?
Because he’s pushed these complaints to the ELA several times, and they won’t publish them.
In other words, the ELA doesn’t agree with him so he insults, hurls baseless charges.
Finally, he declines to address the simple fact that we VOTED for Swan. The Majority rules, and he doesn’t like it.
Like a school yard bully, he is attempting push his view onto us all. That’s why anyone who disagrees with him in this thread is insulted and threatened, their legitimate views dismissed.
Does he honestly think the poor and downtrodden in this great city have no worse problems than doorstops, crushed worms and plugged drains?
And yet these are the thing he complains about. Here and on youtube. Any other web site he can find.
The only thing he doesn’t do is act honestly. He doesn’t act with integrity, as someone you can trust. And here is how we know this:
If he was honest, if he was a man of integrity he’d petition The Council about these problems. But he won’t, since then he’d have to put his full, legal name on the complaint.
If he was honest, if he was a man of integrity he’d engage the media about his problems. But he won’t because they need his full, legal name to back his complaint.
If he was honest, if he was a man of integrity he’d write a letter to Swan as he’s told others to do in this thread. But he won’t because they will need his full, legal name to investigate his complaint.
Finally If he was honest, if he was a man of integrity he would keep his own word, freely made in this thread, and no longer “engage with the user name Dan”.
Instead him films and exaggerates. He lies, bullies and threatens.
And he does it all anonymously, hiding behind pseudonyms.
A rather nasty piece of work I’d say. I’m sure you all agree.
Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / mamakupucho / et al. please keep your word.
Just ignore what I post.
Stop threatening me. Stop trying to find out who I am.
Attack the message, not the messenger.
I can agree to disagree; why can’t you?
Rave Broker on said:
SWan houSinG exMouth ESTATe thank you for coming to our rescue when we had an acute water crisis between Dec 06 to April 07. Or should we be thanking East London Advertiser for their timely intervention and for putting you to shame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGvAglp8zNI
Dan on said:
Readers, talk a walk down memory lane, look at ancient history or see how the Exmouth Estate is now:
This set of videos shows REAL photographs of Brayford Square, NOW
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=149FB8D595D9DB22
This set of videos show REAL photographs of Swan’s regeneration of the Exmouth Estate
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9F02A73115F0BC80
Once again, photographs of THE PRESENT.
Not THE PAST, but the present.
The poor, downtrodden residents of The Exmouth Estate don’t much about THE PAST. What happened YEARS AGO.
No, we only care about the present. And the future. The future you say?
Yes, many residents of the Exmouth Estate thank Swan Housing for their efforts on our estate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eljPAWS7NNM
And we welcome their plans for future development
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=679jWvQ1ARU
Many of us have signed a petition welcoming Swan’s plans to develop the Exmouth Estate.
Let’s look at the fact: Swan Housing took over a troubled estate, one that was neglected by it’s prior landlord. They inherited many problems. The place was run down, and lots of problems.
And they fixed the problems.
These photographs were all taken less than ONE MONTH AGO. They prove our words.
These photographs show the present. Not the past.
Readers, thank you for your emails of support.
We only ask that you decide for yourself: look backwards, at the past.
Or look at the present.
We residents prefer to live in the present.
Dan on said:
Readers, this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85umRczd04E
Shows photographs of the new railguards Swan Housing has installed on The Exmouth Estate.
Look at videos of THE PAST and you’ll see broken wood and metal; hardly safe. And yet not a word about these dangers.
Take a look at this video showing Swan Housing’s removal of graffiti on our estate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw5OnGMsucU
The previous landlord would have taken AGES to remove this. As other commenters have noted (those who were insulted for taking the trouble to opine), on Council estates all they now hear is “Cuts”. We don’t have that problem on The Exmouth Estate. Swan is already carrying out new work.
Finally, many of us residents feel that Swan Housing is doing a GREAT JOB on the Exmouth Estate!
We residents VOTED for Swan. All of us had a vote. All of us must abide by the will of the majority. Democracy is like that. Don’t believe false charges that we were “intimidated”, no democracy ruled, and we have a much better estate for the efforts of Swan Housing.
This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6obWYDBJveY
Says what we all feel.
We VOTED for Swan. If someone didn’t vote for Swan, if they wanted to stay with LBTH that’s their decision. It doesn’t mean they have to lie, threaten and bully to get their point across. The negative energy is counterproductive.
We like Swan Housing’s management of The Exmouth Estate. Many residents feel the same way.
We have signed petitions supporting our views.
Dan on said:
Finally readers, ask yourself: do you really think that we have been paid for our efforts, for making a large number of FILMS DOCUMENTING PRESENT CONDITIONS on The Exmouth Estate?
Is it really that easy? That we have been “hired”. Or maybe we are just happy with how things are now?
That the RAGE team (over twenty different people) who captured over 2,000 photographs and dozens of videos, that they have all been “paid off”? Or maybe the problems they fought against – the reason this thread was opened almost two years mind you – have long ago been solved?
That the newspapers have all been “paid off”? ALL OF THEM? Or are the “problems” presented here all imaginary?
What explanation is there for the silence of our previously very, very vocal local councilors and MP? They certainly spoke up often in the past. Why silence now? We suspect our vocal colleague is too smart to hurl a baseless charge at these individuals; so like any bully, he targets the defenseless.
Why aren’t prominent members of the local community, previously very vocal, also silent? Have they all been “paid off”? Or are their problems, their concerns now resolved?
Readers, do we have a hero here on The Exmouth Estate, someone who will fight on alone to reveal a massive web of corruption and influence peddling? Perhaps all the way to the very top? The mind boggles.
But what might the alternative be? A frustrated, unemployed old geezer, sitting alone in his room, filming doorstops and crushed worms and plugged drains, insisting these “dangers” be addressed from the highest level and, when ignored, lashing out, insisting he is correct? Threatening and bullying when simple, reasonable and polite questions are put to him?
What is more plausible?
The hero defending all residents of the Exmouth Estate?
Or the lone individual, hoping to twist any and every small problem (“doorstops are a danger to life and limb!”) into something much, much larger.
Look at the photographs we’ve both posted.
Ours are from the present. His are from the past.
Judge for yourself.
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing Exmouth Estate remember the Health and Safety Act please !!!Over the years we have observed how our landlord Swan Housing and its contractors are going about their work in blatant disregard of the Health and Safety act and have assiduously monitored some of the breaches with video footage . We remind them again that a smashed up window in a communal corridor must be boarded up to prevent youngsters from plunging to their deaths . Replacing the window one week afterwards is no good especially after we have also had to phone East End Advertiser who presumably tipped them off and warned Swan to repair the window immediately. Swan Housing you must either board up or repair smashed up windows immediately . This is not the first time I have caught on video Swan Housing in blatant breach of the Health and safety act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVa6v5Mr1JQ
Dan on said:
As usual, Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / mamakupucho / et al doesn’t disappoint :
“Over the years we have observed”
Are there any current complaints?
No.
Once again he’s living in the past.
Have there been any deaths on the estate?
No.
But why is he constantly making these exaggerations, over the top statements such as “to prevent youngsters from plunging to their deaths”
Nobody has ever plunged to their death on the Exmouth Estate.
And why is he posting all of this in an eighteen month old thread?
BECAUSE HE’S MAKING NOISE ABOUT NOTHING.
There are no current problems. This thread was started eighteen months ago to solve problems on the estate BACK THEN. These problems have long been solved. That’s why there is no current thread. And that’s why he’s making stuff up.
And the proof that once again he’s posting wild mistatements is all here:
“This is not the first time I have caught on video Swan Housing in blatant breach of the Health and safety act.”
No, YOU never caught them in a breach of Health and Safety.
The only people that can make such a determination is Tower Hamlets Health and Safety.
If you are saying that Tower Hamlets Health and Safety has made such a determination, then this violation will be a matter of public record. These violations are usually published in East End Life, and available on the LBTH web site.
Can you please provide some proof of this assertion.
Or are you filming and exaggerating once again?
There is no evidence that Health and Safety were violated.
Andy Newman on said:
Dan
Your commenst here seem designed to prevent other people commenting. PLease stop, or I shall start deleting you.
Dan on said:
Actually Andy, on the balance I feel I’ve been very respectful in this thread.
If you look at the history when I’ve asked polite questions I’ve been insulted, called names, and when I’ve simply repeated the questions I’ve been threatened.
In response, I haven’t insulted, called names or threatened. I’ve simply asked questions.
I’m not trying to stop anyone else from commenting – in fact I’d respectfully suggest the threats and insults were attempts to stop me from commenting – but if these allegations were true, if there were Health and Safety violations, as determined solely by these who are empowered to make such a determination, LBTH staff, this would be a matter of public record.
Tower Hamlets doesn’t maintain a distinct register
http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/lgsl/401-450/421_health_and_safety_prosecut.aspx
But instead points the researcher here
http://www.hse.gov.uk/prosecutions/
I can’t find a either a Breach or a Case. I’ve only looked online, mind you; in the past I have called and spoken to the officers at LBTH, but they mostly look online as well.
Someone has made an allegation, and I’d like to see some evidence. This is a reasonable question.
Just because a private citizen films something they perceive as a Breach, doesn’t automatically make it a Breach. Only enforcement officers have that power.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Thanks Andy for your comment regarding Dan. He just a pest and should be banned from posting.
Dan on said:
As we were just speaking about trying to prevent others from commenting Andy, I’d like to draw your attention to the disruption in this thread.
Please checks the IPs that are being used to post under the various (and multiple pseudonyms). You’ll only a single pseudonym coming from my IP. Compare with some of the others, especially the pseudonyms I’ve addressed some of my comments to.
Comments made under multiple pseudonyms from what clearly are residential IPs are more than likely being done by a single poster, and solely to disrupt.
Also please look at comments such as
#62 I admit I am crazy. I apologise to all of you on this forum.
Comment by Dan — 29 October, 2010 @ 9:26 pm
I didn’t make that comment. Someone through they’d be clever but two points apply:
1) that was not made from my IP and
2) the email address I normally use would not have been entered either (a second stage of poster validation)
If you’re going to delete comments these might be a good place to start.
(of course the best, low maintenance approach going forward would be to install a proper CMS, with user authentication, CAPTCHAs, all the good stuff but I recognise that is a lot of work. Still lots of WordPress plug ins out there … )
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
Swan Housing in the newspaper again. It seems Swan Housing can not sell their homes built for social housing because the homes are too expensive for ordinary working people to buy. See the link below about Swan Housing.
http://www.echonews.co.uk/news/8459123.Call_for_unsold_new_flats_to_be_let_out_to_tenants/
Rave Broker on said:
Swan Housing’s spokesperson seems to have said the opposite of the old lady. Of course Swan Housing is always right and the people who live in the flats are talking nonsense
Rave Broker on said:
I dread what Swan’s next 5 year regeneration without the £10,000 cap is going to cost-I want to be out before then.I cannot afford Swan Housing’s charges. I have nightmares of the main entrances being left open again and the Estate being smashed to pieces before my eyes all over again. I just dread to know how much it would cost to redo in five years time. I hope my fears are unfounded but in any case i wont chance it and will be off before then even if I’ve got nowhere to go.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
I think the old lady is telling the truth. Swan Housing properties are empty because working people can not afford to buy them. Swan Housing should lower the house prices so ordinary folk can afford to buy them. Swan Housing is meant to be a provider of affordable housing. What a joke!
Rave Broker on said:
A complete joke. A charitable organisation !!!! SWan Housing is gradually going to introduce CCTV and all other luxuries with the services charges going up accordingly -but the people living in the Exmouth Estate are not exactly in the highest income brackets. What happens if they are not able to pay the costs of the forthcoming uncapped regeneration ? Swan will buy them out paying them a fraction of the market value and offer to house them in exchange for rent.Swan Housing has it all down to a fine art.I love my flat but I will have to go well before the next regeneration.Otherwise instead of retiring comfortably with no worries I will be up to my neck in debt. In future it is going to be a survival of the fittest in the Exmouth Estate. Cant afford SWan Housing’s costs,pay them rent instead and give up your flat . No thanks Swan Housing I’ll go instead.
Rave Broker on said:
My friend didn’t listen to me when i told them to vote LBTH. They said “Swan promised us new kitchens and bathrooms so we are going to vote for Swan Housing.”
Dan on said:
Oh yes now we see the real motivation, the underlying reason for all these posts, videos, misinformation and exaggerations – money.
“I just dread to know how much it would cost”
Only LEASEHOLDERS are impacted by the Section 20 charges, and you must be a leaseholder. Those on social housing benefit, renters, DO NOT PAY. And you do?
Yes, what a surprise we see many posts from LEASEHOLDERS, PROPERTY OWNERS on the Exmouth Estate about the value of THEIR property.
Well, everyone had a chance to vote for Swan and the majority ruled. We residents approved of Swan’s plans. Swan did indeed promise new bathroom and kitchens and they delivered. But not to property owning LEASEHOLDERS, only to residents; renters who came across from LBTH. Leaseholders, you see, had to pay.
Are you people all upset over the face you didn’t get a free toilet and residnts of Social Housing did?
I seriously don’t see what the problem is, they promised, they delivered, but not to leaseholders.
And yes, Swan has indeed installed CCTV. Security gates too.
Again, what’s the problem? All residents approved of the installation, after all, there were public meetings where we all had a say.
Resorting to misleading posts on Socialistunity or youtube is no excuse for choosing to not participate in the democratic process.
I don’t seem to recall too many people complaining about the CCTV or the security gates at the public meetings. And there were more than one meeting, actually.
The residents of the Exmouth Estate would be better suited raising these complaints at the public meetings, or in writing with the landlord, or privately with Councillors, or via the East London Advertiser rather than posting them in an eighteen month old thread, started to publicise problems that have long been solved.
But clearly you leaseholders aren’t interested in what’s best for the residents.
And isn’t this thread going way off topic? It was started when we invited George Galloway on the estate to resole some problems.
George helped us (yeh George!) fix those problems.
None of the problems raised in this thread are even remotely related to those original problems.
This thread is just turning into a pulpit for those that harbour a visceral hate for a social landlord most non leaseholders residents seem to approve of.
Rave Broker on said:
We had good security with LBTH. When SWan Housingtook over in 2006 they left the entrances unrepaird for 3 years and “vandals” entered and destroyed the estate -smashed everything to pieces -smithereens. We didn’t need Swan’s gates -we had good working entrances already. You are employed for Swan so you would say what you are saying . Didn’t you see my video? The Estate was smashed up in Swan Housing’s watch. Naturally I don’t want to pay for something that was down to SWan Housing!!! Why do I have to pay for gates , windows, wires pulled out because SWan Housing left all the entrances open to “vandals” ? You pay for it !!! I don’t want to pay for it nor does anybody else. It was not wear and tear -it was wilful negligence and indifference on the part of Swan Housing.
Rave Broker on said:
They have only just (7 Sep 10) secured the entrance in Musbury street after four years -for four years that entrance has been open to everybody and for the first 3 years the entrance and all the landings and flats were open to all . Anybody could just walk in from the streets into any of the flats for three years without a phob -and you want me to pay the Section 20 ?? For damages caused because of Swan’s negligence and indifference ??? You pay it !!!!
Dan on said:
Rave Broker / Ray / Truth on Exmouth Estate / mamakupucho / et al please you promised – your own words – to ignore me.
But since you won’t keep your own word, freely given, let me respond to you.
“You are employed for Swan so you would say what you are saying”
You have no evidence of that, just more insults and baseless charges rather than reason.
No, I’m HAPPY with Swan, like most residents, I suspect. Not ecstatic, but ok with them as a landlord.
Don’t you get it? We disagree. No need for uncivil behaviour.
The fact is two years ago when there were REAL problems, (not doorstops, crushed worms or plugged drains) many of us were unhappy.
WE approached George Galloway. YOU weren’t evem involved.
This thread got started to address problems originally raised to the Honourable Mr Galloway back in late 2008 / early 2009.
THEN the problems got solved.
VERY quickly.
But you sir, are a leaseholder, who by his own words seems more concerned with the value of this property than low rent tenants who got free kitchens and baths.
Why is that?
Under the Decent Homes Standard of 2010 they were entitled to such basic privileges. Take it up with Central Government, not LBTH or Swan, if you don’t agree (as you clearly don’t).
We believe everyone, even leaseholders, should have a decent home.
Kitchen, bath, CCTV security, gated security, all the basics of modern life in London. Why deny the basics to anyone?
In fact we residents on Exmouth now are more concerned with the Condems cuts, the impact upon housing estates across the borough. We’re also aware that we’ll be insulated to some extent as our RSL is a PRIVATE landlord.
Not the best situation, but ok.
And the gates?
Once again, we all had a voice. If you were so unhappy why didn’t you write letters to the media, approach councillors, file petitions with LBTH and speak out publicly?
Oh yes, that pesky full legal name thing again.
Well, the people that approached George Galloway in 2008, the reason this thread was opened, they also approached the media, the ELA, and went to LBTH Council meetings.
THE used their full, legal names.
THEY got results.
YOU might want to try their tactics sometime.
Because you are just wasting your time here.
Protesting on this board won’t increase your property value.
Protesting on this board won’t solve your problems (i.e., doorstops).
Start to work the system. Its all there to help you and you’ll find Councillors, MPs and the media willing to listen and help with problems.
I guess its up to them to decide if the problems you present are real problems or not.
But protesting here? Protesting on youtube?
Nope. Won’t have any significant impact at all, and you’re deluding yourself if you think it will.
[ALIAS CHANGED on said:
SWAN HOUSING FIRE SAFETY DRAMA ON ESSEX ESTATE.
Barry Maicher, 55, who lost his home in the fire on November 13 last year, has led the campaign for action ever since.
He said: “This is an absolute disgrace. The management at Basildon Council, Swan Housing and St Georges Housing have just tried to sweep this under the carpet.
http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/news/5036766.Housing_estate_did_not_get_fire_safety_check_until_after_blaze/
Rave Broker on said:
Thank NYDC for that enlightening article about SWan housing Exmouth -or should I say nothing surprises me about SWan Housing ? I can believe anything about SWan Housing, anything whatever because I’ve had first hand experience with Swan Housing’s malicious behaviour. Always enjoyable to read your research findings New York DC.
[ALIAS CHANGED] on said:
SWAN HOUSING: METHANE GAS POISONING – HEALTH & SAFETY FIASCO
A Swan Housing resident has been diagnosed with methane poisoning, which can cause death by suffocation. Mrs Beale suffers from multiple sclerosis and is angry Swan Housing took one mouth to resolve this dangerous situation.
http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/archive/2010/09/06/Chelmsford+News+%28chelmsford_news%29/8368827.Poison_pong_family_made_homeless/
Rave Broker on said:
Here I have been harping about Swan’s Health and Safety records and lo and behold we didn’t have to wait long to discover the skeletons in Swan Housing’s cupboard. Just because we the tenants have observed Swan Housing’s breaches and possibly videoed them but not reported them to the relevant department , either becuause we don’t have the time or we don’t know the procedures , doesn’t mean that the breach hasn’t ocurred. It just means that the relevant authorities were not made aware of the breaches. Most of us don’t complain about Swan Housing -this doesn’t mean Swan Housing is a wonderful landlord. If I am an absolute rotter and beat my wife daily but she doesn’t complain to the relevant authorities (the police ) doesn’t mean by a long way that I am not a rotter and a wife beater. SWan Housing a message to you from me (and you know who I am !!! my videos reveal my identity) nothing absolutely nothing anybody says about you that is bad will ever surprise me !!!! Shame on you Swan Housing for not taking the lady seriously from the outset !!!!