Rachel Corrie: Israel Finds Israel Not Guilty

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised at this, but still…

From the BBC:

An Israeli court has ruled that the state of Israel was not at fault for the death of US activist Rachel Corrie, who was killed in the Gaza Strip by an Israeli army bulldozer in 2003. Ms Corrie’s family had brought a civil claim for negligence against the Israeli ministry of defence.

The judge said the 23-year-old’s death was a “regrettable accident”. He said the state was not responsible for any “damages caused” as they had occurred during “war-time actions”.

Judge Oded Gershon, presiding at the court in the town of Haifa, said Ms Corrie had been protecting terrorists in a designated combat zone.

He said the bulldozer driver had not seen her, adding the soldiers had done their utmost to keep people away from the site. “She [Corrie] did not distance herself from the area, as any thinking person would have done.”

He ruled the state of Israel did not have to pay any damages. The Corries had requested a symbolic $1 in damages and legal expenses.

They had accused Israel of intentionally and unlawfully killing their daughter, and failing to conduct a full and credible investigation.

An Israeli army investigation in 2003 concluded its forces were not to blame for Ms Corrie’s death.

Ms Corrie’s parents, Cindy and Craig, who had once again made the long trip to Israel from the US to pursue their case, looked dejected after the ruling was read out, says the BBC’s Jon Donnison in Haifa.

“I am hurt,” Cindy Craig told reporters after the verdict was read. The family’s lawyer has said they will appeal against the ruling to Israel’s supreme court.

Ms Corrie was a committed peace activist even before her arrival in the Gaza Strip in 2002. She arranged peace events in her home town in Washington State and became a volunteer for the pro-Palestinian International Solidarity Movement (ISM).

In 2003, Ms Corrie was in the town of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip as part of a group of ISM protesters. They were acting as human shields to try to stop the Israeli army demolishing Palestinian homes and clearing land around Rafah. The Israeli army argued the area was being used by militants and that the protesters should not have been in a closed military zone.

The army’s investigation found that Ms Corrie was not visible and that she was killed by debris falling on her. But Ms Corrie’s supporters say it is impossible that the bulldozer driver did not see her.

Pictures taken on the day Ms Corrie died show her in an orange high-visibility jacket carrying a megaphone and blocking the path of an Israeli military bulldozer.

A collection of Ms Corrie’s writings was turned into a play – My Name Is Rachel Corrie – which has toured all over the world, including Israel and the Palestinian territories.

An aid ship intercepted by the Israeli military in 2010 while trying to break the blockade of Gaza was named after her.

[SU note: The BBC's thesaurus shows "attacked" and "intercepted" as being synonymous when it comes to Israel]

54 comments on “Rachel Corrie: Israel Finds Israel Not Guilty

  1. Why has the Boycott Israel campaign fallen on deaf ears. You should be promoting it every week on this site.

  2. Marko I agree, and if there are stories to tell, we’ll try to tell them. The problem is one of time, to be honest. If you see good articles or know good writers, drop me an email and I’ll put up their articles.

  3. jock mctrousers on said:

    Mind you ” whose plight is exploited by suicide bombers” is a bit pathetic, if predictable.

  4. Vincent Doherty on said:

    As regards the verdict as my Granny would have said “What would you expect from a pig but a grunt!”

  5. Maybe, I am over sensitive but comment no 5 could be seen as being out of order. It may be posted in innocence, and I would give the poster the benefit of the doubt, it is an old saying after all. However, there is an old history of insulting and attacking Jewish people by calling them pigs, leaving pigs heads outside synagogues etc.

  6. 7. The type of comment expected from Jew haters.
    Silly young girl what a wasted life. All the poverty in the US to fight against but she becomes a martyr in Israel.

  7. John Grimshaw on said:

    Annie:
    7. The type of comment expected from Jew haters.
    Silly young girl what a wasted life. All the poverty in the US to fight against but she becomes a martyr in Israel.

    #5 Might be a racist, then again he may have made an unfortunate choice of analogy to make his point. However I notice from your comments concerning Rachel Corrie that you are hardly without your own issues. :(

  8. Annie: Silly young girl what a wasted life.

    Yes for God’s sake don’t look at what Israel does.

    Rachel Corrie was obviously a brave and principled woman willing to stand against injustice and her parents won’t stop till they have justice for her.

    Meanwhile boycotting Israeli goods is something we all can do and it is effective.

  9. Annie,

    Wasted life? On the contrary,she is a martyr who’s death has helped expose the moral bankruptcy of the Israeli State.

  10. 11. A Martyr! I used the term loosely as if such thing exists, you are serious mother.

  11. Annie,

    How you use the term is irrelevant as you are clearly trying to devalue the lives lost at the hands of the IDF, be they Palestinian or otherwise.You are disgusting!

  12. onlyoneteaminessex on said:

    Annie:
    13. How can you devalue the dead? whatever side they take. They are dead!

    You are truly an ignoramus. The lives lost were of value and you try devalue their loss. The irony is of course, whilst you attempt to be such a smart-arse you don’t realise that those murdered can no longer take sides.

  13. John Grimshaw on said:

    I would hesitate to use the word martyr given that it implies Rachel Corrie and her colleagues were dangerous fanatics. It allows the Israeli state to insinuate about Corrie things that simply aren’t true. It also allows them to disguise the existence of the real fanatics within the Israeli state who continue to use racist, religious and reactionary arguments to deny Palestinians their rights. I’ll settle for principled and heroic.

  14. Vincent Doherty on said:

    Excuse my ignorance with regard to pig’s or pig’s heads being used in any way to depict people of the Jewish faith. My many Jewish friends and comrades with whom I campaigned over the years in the Anti Nazi League and many other campaigns can testify to that. For anyone offended by the imagery I apologise sincerely. The point I was trying to make was quite simple, Rachel Corrie never had any chance of justice in an Israeli court. The fact is that those who stand by the racist apartheid regime in Israel resort to the only default position they know when the Zionist state is being criticised, “she’s anti semitic, he’s a Jew hater” blah blah blah whilst turning up their noses at the stench of Israeli barbarism.

  15. The kindest way I can assess Rachel Corrie’s mission is in comparing her to Pasha Antipov, the idealistic revolutionary from Dr. Zhivago, whose rage of exclusive pity overwhelms his moral values. The immense suffering he saw turned him from a naive idealist to a brutal, mass-killing revolutionary. He was a lost soul.

    Corrie, likewise, aligned herself seamlessly with suffering Palestinians, reserving for them her absolute pity to the extent that suffering Israelis merited nothing but a sneering hatred from her. Corrie’s idealism did not proceed from love but from ideologically induced hatred. She was an open apologist for Palestinian terrorism, and she died trying to prevent the work of an Israeli bulldozer, which was searching for munitions buried in the ground. Contrary to Palestinian reports, the bulldozer was not there to demolish a house. (Israel did have a habit of demolishing houses which were used as cover for a weapon-smuggling tunnels, but on that day the bulldozer had a different assignment). Any which way you look at it, those munitions were there to be utilized in pre-meditated attacks against innocent civilians. Corrie died protecting terrorist weapons. She was completely indifferent to the deaths these weapons spelled at a time when suicide bombings were a matter of daily occurrence in Israel.

    Perhaps the blame for her self-induced terrible death can be laid at the feet of the system in which she was educated. Perhaps her parents should have been more circumspect in allowing such a giddy reckless daughter to travel to such a dangerous place as Gaza.

    I realize that in this venue my words will be met with much scorn and resistance. The visitors here do so love to hate and demonize Israel and Israelis that if by any chance the driver of that bulldozer were to fall into your hands you would gladly tear him to pieces and feel virtuous for doing so, regardless of the fact that he is innocent. (Of course in your scheme of things, there is no such thing as an innocent Israeli Jew, is there?).

  16. jock mctrousers on said:

    #19 ” …there is no such thing as an innocent Israeli Jew, is there?”

    Do you consider yourself innocent, you repellent scum?

  17. Question asked. Question answered as predicted.

    Another question: Where would you direct all this existential, life-giving, hatred if there were no Israel?

  18. Noga: The kindest way I can assess Rachel Corrie’s mission is in comparing her to … a brutal, mass-killing revolutionary… a lost soul…

    I’m not sure I’d like to know what your less kind assessments would be…

  19. “Noga: The kindest way I can assess Rachel Corrie’s mission is in comparing her to … a brutal, mass-killing revolutionary… a lost soul…

    I’m not sure I’d like to know what your less kind assessments would be…”

    _________

    This is how Francis King would have liked to conduct the trial: by twisting words and demonizing people in order to get a guilty verdict. Lies, revenge and blood lust, and justice be damned. He does it in full view of the actual comment that I posted.

    What kind of cause is it that in order to maintain its momentum, it needs people to lie, distort and ravage?

    “The kindest way I can assess Rachel Corrie’s mission is in comparing her to Pasha Antipov, the idealistic revolutionary from Dr. Zhivago, whose rage of exclusive pity overwhelms his moral values. The immense suffering he saw turned him from a naive idealist to a brutal, mass-killing revolutionary. He was a lost soul.”

    __________

  20. V rot mne nogi, Noga, you need help, mate. A sense of humour would be a good start. If you post ridiculously hyperbolic statements on blogs, people will poke fun at you. And if you follow that up with even more ridiculous hyperbole, where will it end? Your initial comparison of Rachel Corrie with Pasha Antipov was absurd. And your comeback is even sillier.

  21. stuart on said:

    Noga:

    Another question: Where would you direct all this existential, life-giving,hatred if there were no Israel?

    Nobody should have to apologise for opposing a colonial settler state.

  22. “What kind of cause is it that in order to maintain its momentum, it needs people to lie, distort and ravage?”

    Coming from a true-blue, pro-Israel sychophant like yourself, Noga, the above statement demonstrates you’ve no shortage of chutzpah. Welcome here just the same, I suppose it beats listening to the tumbleweeds at your own blog…

  23. So Francis, you idea of joke and fun is to mutilate and dis-represent the words that I had written? What can I say, I am almost cracking rib laughing at your jokes. Such hilarity.

    BTW, I appreciate the fact, notwithstanding the above, that you implicitly agree with my assessment of your reckless comment. It seems to be common practice here:

    Someone posts an obscenity: “As regards the verdict as my Granny would have said “What would you expect from a pig but a grunt!”

    Some people caution him that his words might be construed as antisemitic, and what do you, next it is: Just a joke.

  24. No Noga, my ellipsis didn’t really change the essence of your comparison of Rachel Corrie to a fictional mass-murderer. It merely served to highlight its absurdity. I am laughing at you. Whether you are able laugh at yourself is no concern of mine.

  25. I feel like a fresh piece of meat here, with all you mad dogs howling for a bite. God preserve us from these “justice” seekers.

  26. Mark Victorystooge on said:

    Well, “Noga” means leg in Russian. A piece of meat is exactly what you are. Don’t know about fresh, though. Zionist apologetics tend to be on the stale side.

  27. Nogodinsocialism on said:

    Ah yes the ISM, wonderful people fighting for human rights, well not quite. One member found guilty of donating $20,000.00 to Hamas who remember are ultimately a gang of theocratic psychopaths funded by Iran, a state funnily run by another gang of theocratic psychopaths. Final point what has any of the aforementioned groups/state have to do with socialism? Please tell.

    As for calling her a martyr, says it all, more theological gibberish!!!

  28. jim mclean on said:

    I am having a little difficulty in separating the anti Zionist statements and those that have gone that extra step to antisemitism. No I’m not, some shite on this thread.

  29. martyr
    2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.

    nothing theological in that definition.

  30. Noga means light in Hebrew.

    Thanks, Mike. I was wondering whether to insert that quite damning photo of Corrie.

  31. Calling someone a martyr is not a praise, even when the term is used in a secular manner. And of course the whole idea of martyrdom is shrouded in religious mythology. That’s what gives it sway over people’s minds so that it interferes with a correct judgment of their interests and better rationality. Just look how shahids are celebrated by the Palestinians. It is a way of mind-control.

  32. jim mclean: I am having a little difficulty in separating the anti Zionist statements and those that have gone that extra step to antisemitism. No I’m not, some shite on this thread.

    Aye Jim some shite indeed, all aimed at diverting discussion away from Rachel Corrie’s murder and the injustice she resisted.

  33. Noga:
    Calling someone a martyr is not a praise, even when the term is used in a secular manner. And of course the whole idea of martyrdom is shrouded in religious mythology. That’s what gives it sway over people’s minds so that it interferes with a correct judgment of their interests and better rationality. Just look how shahids are celebrated by the Palestinians. It is a way of mind-control.

    Actually the use of the term martyr has a very long secular tradition in the working class and radical movement, but you wouldn’t have a clue about that. Tolpuddle, Haymarket, Peterloo, Llanelli, Luddites etc.

    As for the photo, she burned a US flag and so deserved nothing but death. Though has anyone ever adequately explained why such an anti-semitic monster refused to burn the Israeli flag in that incident?

    I would stay and argue because this is such fun but I’ve more important things to do like scratching my bollocks.

  34. It is a lie that Rachel Corrie expressed ‘a sneering hatred’ towards Israelis.
    She opposed the illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

  35. mike: she burned a US flag and so deserved nothing but death. Though has anyone ever adequately explained why such an anti-semitic monster refused to burn the Israeli flag in that incident?I would stay and argue because this is such fun but I’ve more important things to do like scratching my bollocks.

    You are Anders Behring Breivik and i claim my five pounds!

  36. Ivan: You are Anders Behring Breivik and i claim my five pounds!

    Here you go. Spend it on a reading comprehension lesson.

  37. John Grimshaw on said:

    The Chambers Dictionary
    “Martyr –
    1. a person bearing witness to his or her religious beliefs by refusing to renounce them in death;
    2. a person who suffers for his or her beliefs;
    3. a person who suffers, or pretends to suffer, from any cause,
    4. a victim…
    from OE, from L, from Gr meaning a witness”

    Thats the problem with using the word martyr. It does have a religious origination but like many words in western secular society it has then taken on a broader range of meanings, some of them not pleasant. And of course as we have seen by the contributions made by the pro-Zionists on this thread, well meaning people using it allows those who aren’t to smear and confuse.

  38. John Grimshaw,

    The pro-Zionists stock-in-trade is smearing and confusing,John. And in Rachel’s case, a healthy dose of character assassination, to boot. One should never allow one’s opponents to define the language of debate.

  39. Hey Moderator – Noga is complaining to an Israel advocacy blog that she’s been banned from here. Is that true? If so it’s very poor show, though not as poor as banning Louis Proyect.

    Noga is a wonderful zionist complete with bogus take on history, bogus take on geography, ludicrous hyperbole, false allegations of antisemitism, explicit racism and paranoia verging on hysteria and hallucination. She is Canada’s Jonathan Hoffman and therefore an asset to the anti-zionist cause. If she has been banned please unban her forthwith.

    Many thanks

    In solidarity etc…

  40. Hi levi9909. Not deliberately banned. It’s quite possible that she has tripped the spam filter on a number of occasions. I’m tired of bullshit spam and zionist trolls, so the system has been radically hardened.

    But given what you’ve said, I’m not sure we even want that sort of person posting on here.

    Also, can you explain why you think we banned Louis Proyect? Seriously, I need that explained. He’s a miserable ridiculous joke, but he’s never been banned from here. Made a total fool of himself by writing about it, then showed the irony of calling us “stalinist unity” by a) deleting his post about it and b) apologising on here, but only by using a fake name.

    Anyway yeah, I don’t follow blog convention of letting right wing idiots have a platform so we can all laugh at them. They know what the left doesn’t know: If you get a chance to spout this nonsense, you’ll win some people over. Collectively, we’ve decided that we don’t think this site needs to offer a fair and balanced platform for hard-right people to express their blood lust.

    So, the thing is, I think we don’t have to make a case for why we ban people – people should make a case as to why we should allow those people to use a socialist blog for their own propaganda.

    It’s all so insular – get kicked off one blog, go onto another blog to complain about it. The Shiraz Socialist lot were at it for a while – they had to keep talking about it to show how much they didn’t care.

    So: I’ve got a lot of respect for you, and I’d like you to make the case for *not* banning her. I hope you’ll respect my position of not allowing this blog to be used for propaganda unless it’s *our* propaganda. More than happy for people to have a real debate, but these people know that they’ll disrupt debate and sow confusion and doubt with their lies. I don’t want any part of that.

    And seriously, tell me why you think we banned Louis Proyect :-)

  41. Mark Victorystooge on said:

    tony collins: Hi levi9909. Not deliberately banned. It’s quite possible that she has tripped the spam filter on a number of occasions. I’m tired of bullshit spam and zionist trolls, so the system has been radically hardened.But given what you’ve said, I’m not sure we even want that sort of person posting on here. Also, can you explain why you think we banned Louis Proyect? Seriously, I need that explained. He’s a miserable ridiculous joke, but he’s never been banned from here. Made a total fool of himself by writing about it, then showed the irony of calling us “stalinist unity” by a) deleting his post about it and b) apologising on here, but only by using a fake name.Anyway yeah, I don’t follow blog convention of letting right wing idiots have a platform so we can all laugh at them. They know what the left doesn’t know: If you get a chance to spout this nonsense, you’ll win some people over. Collectively, we’ve decided that we don’t think this site needs to offer a fair and balanced platform for hard-right people to express their blood lust.So, the thing is, I think we don’t have to make a case for why we ban people – people should make a case as to why we should allow those people to use a socialist blog for their own propaganda.It’s all so insular – get kicked off one blog, go onto another blog to complain about it. The Shiraz Socialist lot were at it for a while – they had to keep talking about it to show how much they didn’t care.So: I’ve got a lot of respect for you, and I’d like you to make the case for *not* banning her. I hope you’ll respect my position of not allowing this blog to be used for propaganda unless it’s *our* propaganda. More than happy for people to have a real debate, but these people know that they’ll disrupt debate and sow confusion and doubt with their lies. I don’t want any part of that.And seriously, tell me why you think we banned Louis Proyect

    Insular? Yes. There are times when I think there are actually only about 20 people worldwide using Internet discussion blogs, at least in English, and 10 of them do so to justify whatever the Israelis do. A socialist blog does not have to make room for Miss Leg and co-thinkers. Especially since their arguments tend towards the stale and the repetitive.

  42. tony collins,

    My two cents. While I generally agree with your point here, Tony, and have no desire to see this place mucked up by HP trolls, it is ultimately necessary for socialists to confront opposing arguments, that may be used to formulate foreign policy, in the real world. Pro-Israel Zionists are well-organised and , obviously, have the ear of the US administration, amongst others, so we have to counter their lies and propaganda at all levels, including the blogosphere, if we are to aid the Palestinian struggle.That does mean moderating discussions more closely,I suppose, to differentiate the trolls from the debaters ?

  43. Mark Victorystooge on said:

    Omar: tony collins, My two cents. While I generally agree with your point here, Tony, and have no desire to see this place mucked up by HP trolls, it is ultimately necessary for socialists to confront opposing arguments, that may be used to formulate foreign policy, in the real world. Pro-Israel Zionists are well-organised and , obviously, have the ear of the US administration, amongst others, so we have to counter their lies and propaganda at all levels, including the blogosphere, if we are to aid the Palestinian struggle.That does mean moderating discussions more closely,I suppose, to differentiate the trolls from the debaters ?

    My own two cents – Zionist apologetics tend to be predictable and start and finish with “you’re a terrorist/anti-Semite”. You also get a pretty good idea of their content because, yes, they do pervade the mainstream media in the Western world, a fact which tells you less about Middle East conflict than about the mainstream media in the Western world. It isn’t like Leg & Co are going to offer new insights, which alone would make their presence worthwhile. And this is a socialist website, so obviously non-socialist views might be aired on it but certainly do not possess an automatic right to be tolerated.

  44. tony collins,

    Tony – Many thanks for dignifying my pop at Noga with a response. I don’t really give a stuff one way or another whether or where she posts. I was just enjoying the thread. I do think you should mention if someone has been banned if they already have comments in the thread. It’s good to know if someone has abandoned their argument or if they’ve been banned. Perhaps you do that already.

    Re Louis Proyect – I saw his post complaining about being banned and I thought his evidence was quite convincing but I had no idea why he would have been banned. But anyway, apologies for getting it wrong. I do enjoy a bit of Louis though. He knocked the shit out of Atzmon once over at the Palestine “Think” Tank. He made Atzmon look so silly even the main mod at PTT (Mary Rizzo) had to denounce Atzmon’s sheer dishonesty before “losing” the post and the thread.

    Omar – I half agree with you. I usually end up banning zionists from my blog. They never, but never, argue in good faith. But it can be useful to challenge them and it’s extremely difficult to engage them on any of their own blogs. You either get banned or drowned out by trolls. But the bad faith argument issue is such that there is no line between hasbara and trolling. So I suppose whether they’re tolerated, argued with or banned is simply down to taste.

  45. “It isn’t like Leg & Co are going to offer new insights,,.”

    That made me laugh out loud! Good one Mark! :)

  46. David Hillman on said:

    Martyr in the original Greek and in the Arabic equivalent means witness. The religious aspect is the idea that in order to lead a full and authentic life you must be willing to put your beliefs on the line, not by seeking death but by telling truth. Obviously this has a secular equivalent.
    Remember that several of those cold bloodedly executed on the Mavi Marmora were carrying and using cameras, not weapons, when they were shot in the head. Like Rachel Corrie they were true martyrs.

  47. You’re way off topic here BJ and you appear to be conflating zionists and Jews. There are lots of zionist and neo-nazi sites for that sort of thing and you’ve gone and strayed into one that is neither.

  48. Boycott Jews?:
    anti-Jewish bigots….

    In a thread where a poster was taken to task and immediately apologised for possible inadvertent offence to Jews, you’re funny.

    Can you people not read? Seriously? Do you do politics at all beyond name-calling?